What's Wrong With Palin?

Published on September 24, 2008 By Island Dog In Politics

It almost seems that the left hates Palin more than they hate Bush. She seems to be the focus of every left-leaning website and publication out there on a daily basis. The attacks on her and her family have been nothing short of discusting. I have even had liberals tell me straight out, "she scares me". Of course, when I ask for specifics they don't seem to have an answer, much like asking them about Obama's accomplishments.

I do understand how a strong, conservative woman like Palin can be intimidating to liberals, I mean she is tougher than most of them. However, I'm curious as to what is the basis of all this hate. Is it just because she's a conservative, or are there real reasons to fear her?

Comments (Page 15)

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kurtin

on Oct 18, 2008

So, I read that 24th comment on this thread and followed all of this evolution debate here.

Heh, that was me...

I've seen some quotes from that reply pop up here and there with their two cents attached without reading my follow ups. For those who believe I was saying that Palin was advocating for and trying to force those 'science' issues to be brought up in public schools, what was not what I was going after. With that reply, I was merely addressing the question of why don't I like her? For the record, I like debating Lulapilgrim on evolution. It brings me great joy, but I won't continue it on this thread.

P.S.: I know I still didn't write that article we had mentioned a little, Lula...things have been really busy as of late. Not much time to sit down and collect thoughts to express; it has been go, go, go, maybe eat or sleep... I suspect my next blog will be about personal things anyway, so we'll see if I can get back into the swing of things here in the weeks to come.

212

lulapilgrim

on Oct 19, 2008

Thanks Kurtin for the follow-up....

I too have greatly enjoyed the evolution debate....

Don't trouble yourself over being busy with life outside JU.

I was merely addressing the question of why don't I like her?

What do you think of my #210 post on Palin?

213

bornagainatheist

on Oct 23, 2008

oh, please... classic inflamatory distortion. we cannot allow it by not voting, or voting for McPalin.

214

bornagainatheist

on Oct 23, 2008

lulapilgrim

BORNAGAINATHEIST POSTS: Fear of if/when she takes over for McCain. ....... It just cannot be allowed to happen. Can't be allowed to happen? Interesting choice of words....How far will Obamians go to make sure this "cannot be allowed to happen"? Is this why there is so much voter fraud going on in Ohio? WNMNKH POSTS: This thread is for Palin, but why do I see evolution debate here?I think it goes back to Kurtin's comment #24......if you care to follow the discussion, I think you'll find it is interestingly relevant.

oh, please... classic inflamatory distortion. we cannot allow it by not voting, or voting for McPalin.

215

bornagainatheist

on Oct 23, 2008

Daiwa

Boorish, elitist, scripted talking points.

what exactly is boorish, elistist, and scripted about what I wrote?

216

davad70

on Oct 23, 2008

Relatively???? He's had no executive experience whatsoever! And for the time he's been in the US Senate, he's voted present all too often showing he's unable or unwillingly to take a stand on matters put before him in the Senate.

Can you give me one example of Obama voting "present" since he's been in the US Senate?

217

Dr Guy

on Oct 24, 2008

bornagainatheist

reply 15

Daiwa

Boorish, elitist, scripted talking points.

what exactly is boorish, elistist, and scripted about what I wrote?

You wrote something? Might want to try re-writing it since it was apparently lost and gibberish was left in its place.

218

Dr Guy

on Oct 24, 2008

Can you give me one example of Obama voting "present" since he's been in the US Senate?

Or attending committee meetings, roll call votes, real votes, doing work - of any kind?

219

lulapilgrim

on Oct 24, 2008

Lula posts:

DAVAD70 POSTS:

Can you give me one example of Obama voting "present" since he's been in the US Senate?

DR GUY POSTS:

Or attending committee meetings, roll call votes, real votes, doing work - of any kind?

Obama's voting "present" was when he was in the Illinois state Senate, but while in the US Senate, he's on record for "not voting" especially in his second year waayyy tooo many times. (and this is just a very small sampling..)

During his stint as Senator during the 109th Congress, his "not voting" record inlcuded:

9/05/06 #231 ON Nomination of PN1594, "Kimberly Ann Moore, of Virginia, to be US Circuit Judge for Federal Circuit...and on 5/08/06 # 115, ON cloture on motion to proceed S.22, "A bill to improve patient acess to health care services and provide medical care by reducing the excessive burdens the liability system places on health care delivery systems." and on 4/25/06, #93, Nomination of PN1187, "Gray Hamptom Miller, of Texas, to be US District Judge for the Southern District of Texas."

Voting Record

Senator Obama's Voting Record for the 110th Congress

View the record for the previous 109th Congress.

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Vote No.	Session	Date	Vote Question Description	Result	Position
213	2	10/01/08	On Passage of the Bill H.R. 1424 A bill to provide authority for the Federal Government to purchase and insure certain types of troubled assets for the purposes of providing stability to and preventing disruption in the economy and financial system and protecting taxpayers, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide incentives for energy production and conservation, to extend certain expiring provisions, to provide individual income tax relief, and for other purposes.	Bill Passed (74-25, 3/5 majority required)	Yea
212	2	10/01/08	On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5685 to H.R. 1424 (A bill to provide authority for the Federal Government to purchase and insure certain types of troubled assets for the purposes of providing stability to and preventing disruption in the economy and financial system and protecting taxpayers, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide incentives for energy production and conservation, to extend certain expiring provisions, to provide individual income tax relief, and for other purposes.) In the nature of a substitute.	Amendment Agreed to (74-25, 3/5 majority required)	Yea
211	2	10/01/08	On Passage of the Bill H.R. 7081 A bill to approve the United States-India Agreement for Cooperation on Peaceful Uses of Nuclear Energy, and for other purposes.	Bill Passed (86-13, 3/5 majority required)	Yea
210	2	10/01/08	On the Motion (Motion to Concur in the House Amdt. To the Senate Amdt. to H.R. 2095) A bill to amend title 49, United States Code, to prevent railroad fatalities, injuries, and hazardous materials releases, to authorize the Federal Railroad Safety Administration, and for other purposes.	Motion Agreed to (74-24)	Yea
209	2	9/29/08	On the Cloture Motion H.R. 2095 A bill to amend title 49, United States Code, to prevent railroad fatalities, injuries, and hazardous materials releases, to authorize the Federal Railroad Safety Administration, and for other purposes.	Cloture Motion Agreed to (69-17, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
208	2	9/27/08	On the Motion (Motion to Concur in the House Amendment to the Senate Amendment to H.R.2638) A bill making appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2008, and for other purposes.	Motion Agreed to (78-12)	Not Voting
207	2	9/27/08	On the Cloture Motion H.R. 2638 A bill making appropriations for the Department of Homeland Security for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2008, and for other purposes.	Cloture Motion Agreed to (83-12, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
206	2	9/26/08	On the Motion to Proceed S. 3604 A bill making emergency supplemental appropriations for economic recovery for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2008, and for other purposes.	Motion to Proceed Rejected (52-42, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
205	2	9/23/08	On Passage of the Bill H.R. 6049 A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide incentives for energy production and conservation, to extend certain expiring provisions, to provide individual income tax relief, and for other purposes.	Bill Passed (93-2)	Not Voting
204	2	9/23/08	On the Motion (Motion to Waive C.B.A. Baucus Amdt. No.5635) To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend certain expiring provisions, and for other purposes.	Motion Agreed to (84-11, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
203	2	9/23/08	On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5634 to H.R. 6049 (Renewable Energy and Job Creation Act of 2008) To provide alternative minimum tax relief, and for other purposes.	Amendment Rejected (53-42, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
202	2	9/23/08	On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5633 to H.R. 6049 (Renewable Energy and Job Creation Act of 2008) In the nature of a substitute.	Amendment Agreed to (93-2, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
201	2	9/17/08	On Passage of the Bill S. 3001 An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2009 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.	Bill Passed (88-8)	Not Voting
200	2	9/16/08	On the Cloture Motion S. 3001 An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2009 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.	Cloture Motion Agreed to (61-32, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
199	2	9/10/08	On the Amendment S.Amdt. 4979 to S. 3001 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2009) To repeal the requirement for reduction of survivor annuities under the Survivor Benefit Plan by veterans' dependency and indemnity compensation.	Amendment Agreed to (94-2)	Not Voting
198	2	9/10/08	On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5280 to S. 3001 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2009) To authorize, with an offset, an additional $100,000,000 for Procurement, Defense-wide, and an additional $171,000,000 for Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation, Defense-wide, for near-term missile defense programs and activities.	Amendment Rejected (39-57)	Not Voting
197	2	9/08/08	On the Cloture Motion S. 3001 An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2009 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.	Cloture Motion Agreed to (83-0, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
196	2	7/31/08	On the Concurrent Resolution H.Con.Res. 398 A concurrent resolution providing for an adjournment or recess of the two Houses.	Concurrent Resolution Agreed to (48-40)	Not Voting
195	2	7/31/08	On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed S. 3001 An original bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2009 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe military personnel strengths for such fiscal year, and for other purposes.	Cloture on the Motion to Proceed Rejected (51-39, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
194	2	7/31/08	On the Conference Report H.R. 4137 A bill to amend and extend the Higher Education Act of 1965, and for other purposes.	Conference Report Agreed to (83-8)	Not Voting

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Vote No.	Session	Date	Vote Question Description	Result	Position
193	2	7/31/08	On the Conference Report H.R. 4040 A bill to establish consumer product safety standards and other safety requirements for children's products and to reauthorize and modernize the Consumer Product Safety Commission.	Conference Report Agreed to (89-3)	Not Voting
192	2	7/30/08	On the Cloture Motion S. 3335 A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend certain expiring provisions, and for other purposes.	Cloture Motion Rejected (51-43, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
191	2	7/30/08	On the Cloture Motion S. 2035 A bill to maintain the free flow of information to the public by providing conditions for the federally compelled disclosure of information by certain persons connected with the news media.	Cloture Motion Rejected (51-43, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
190	2	7/29/08	On the Cloture Motion H.R. 6049 A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide incentives for energy production and conservation, to extend certain expiring provisions, to provide individual income tax relief, and for other purposes.	Cloture Motion Rejected (53-43, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
189	2	7/28/08	On the Cloture Motion S. 3297 A bill to advance America's priorities.	Cloture Motion Rejected (52-40, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
188	2	7/28/08	On the Motion (Motion to Instruct Sgt. At Arms) A bill to advance America's priorities.	Motion Agreed to (87-3)	Not Voting
187	2	7/26/08	On the Cloture Motion S. 3186 A bill to provide funding for the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program.	Cloture Motion Rejected (50-35, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
186	2	7/26/08	On the Motion (Motion to Concur in the House Amendment to Senate Amendment to the House Amendments to the Senate Amendment to HR 3221) A bill to provide needed housing reform and for other purposes.	Motion Agreed to (72-13)	Not Voting
185	2	7/25/08	On the Cloture Motion H.R. 3221 A bill to provide needed housing reform and for other purposes.	Cloture Motion Agreed to (80-13, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
184	2	7/25/08	On the Cloture Motion S. 3268 A bill to amend the Commodity Exchange Act, to prevent excessive price speculation with respect to energy commodities, and for other purposes.	Cloture Motion Rejected (50-43, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
183	2	7/22/08	On Cloture on the Motion to Proceed S. 3268 A bill to amend the Commodity Exchange Act, to prevent excessive price speculation with respect to energy commodities, and for other purposes.	Cloture on the Motion to Proceed Agreed to (94-0, 3/5 majority required)	Not Voting
182	2	7/16/08	On Passage of the Bill H.R. 5501 A bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal years 2009 through 2013 to provide assistance to foreign countries to combat HIV AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria, and for other purposes.	Bill Passed (80-16)	Not Voting
181	2	7/16/08	On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5077 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008) To reduce to $35,000,000,000 the amount authorized to be appropriated to combat HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria in developing countries during the next 5 years.	Amendment Rejected (31-64)	Not Voting
180	2	7/16/08	On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5082 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008) To limit the period during which appropriations may be made to carry out this Act and to create a point of order in the Senate against any appropriation to carry out this Act that exceeds the amount authorized for fiscal year 2013.	Amendment Rejected (28-67)	Not Voting
179	2	7/16/08	On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5081 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008) To strike the provision requiring the development of coordinated oversight plans and to establish an independent Inspector General at the Office of the Global AIDS Coordinator.	Amendment Rejected (44-51)	Not Voting
178	2	7/16/08	On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5083 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008) To establish a bipartisan commission for the purpose of improving oversight and eliminating wasteful government spending under the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief.	Amendment Rejected (32-63)	Not Voting
177	2	7/15/08	On Overriding the Veto H.R. 6331 A bill to amend titles XVIII and XIX of the Social Security Act to extend expiring provisions under the Medicare Program, to improve beneficiary access to preventive and mental health services, to enhance low-income benefit programs, and to maintain access to care in rural areas, including pharmacy access, and for other purposes.	Veto Overridden (70-26, 2/3 majority required)	Not Voting
176	2	7/15/08	On the Amendment S.Amdt. 5073 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008) In the nature of a substitute.	Amendment Rejected (16-80)	Not Voting
175	2	7/15/08	On the Motion to Table S.Amdt. 5078 to S. 2731 (Tom Lantos and Henry J. Hyde United States Global Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Reauthorization Act of 2008) To limit the countries to which Federal financial assistance may be targeted under this Act.	Motion to Table Agreed to (70-24)	Not Voting
174	2	7/11/08	On the Cloture Motion S. 2731 A bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal years 2009 through 2013 to provide assistance to foreign countries to combat HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria, and for other purposes.

220

Dr Guy

on Oct 24, 2008

Maybe he will act the same way as president. We can hope after all. An absent Obama is better than a present one.

221

taltamir

on Oct 24, 2008

Maybe he will act the same way as president. We can hope after all. An absent Obama is better than a present one.

That is what I hope... heh, my dad the liberal says it is all smoke and mirrors and that he is gonna do nothing.. so voting for "democrat" makes sense in that he is probably not gonna fight against abortion laws, while at the same time he is gonna renege on all his promises of socialism...

If obama is really voted in, I sincerely HOPE he would do nothing.

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davad70

on Oct 24, 2008

Ok Lula, so in the 109th congress Obama missed 11 votes, versus McCain missing 58. 51 Senators missed more votes than he did.

In the 110th Congress, when they were both actively running for president. Obama missed 303 votes versus McCain missing 420. McCain missed more votes than Tim Johnson, who was in the hospital for 7 months.

How exactly does any of this demonstrate that McCain is a better choice than Obama for president?

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lulapilgrim

on Oct 25, 2008

LULA POSTS:

DAVAD70 POSTS:

Can you give me one example of Obama voting "present" since he's been in the US Senate?

DAVAD70 POSTS: #222

Ok Lula, so in the 109th congress Obama missed 11 votes,

DAVAD70 POSTS:

In the 110th Congress, when they were both actively running for president. Obama missed 303 votes

You asked for ONE example and this exercise has you answering your own question and then some!

How exactly does any of this demonstrate that McCain is a better choice than Obama for president?

It you want to parse out Obama's not voting, a picture might come into focus.....for example, his "not voting" for court nominees. Under the Constitution, the president's job is to nominate and his job as Senator is to give them a fair up or down vote. Obama is playing games, working for himself, power, and his party instead of serving the people and I find that just one more of his very repugnant characteristics.

Put all the Obama facts together and one can get a fairly good picture of where he'd like take our country...it isn't one that's agreeable to me.

I wonder, have you noticed that all the things that have been found out about Obama have been found out by people other than the mainstream media? Doesn't that give you grave concern? Having witnessed the media's bias and favoritism towards him, doesn't that lead you to suspect what else does the media know but is concealing until the election is safely over?

Chris Matthew's admitted he gets chills up his legs for Obama for pete's sake. Something is very rotten out there and for the most part, the rot is all over Obama and his side of the court. Nah, he's not my kind of President, not at all. Mccain and Palin are light years ahead of Obama and Biden as far as the common good of this country goes.

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SanChonino

on Oct 25, 2008

Mmmmm, I love the smell of fear mongering in the morning.

Let's be honest - NONE of the four people put up by the two major parties should be withing TEN MILES of the Oval Office.

They ALL SUCK.

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davad70

on Oct 25, 2008

You asked for ONE example and this exercise has you answering your own question and then some!

And you still never gave an instance of him voting "present" in the US Senate.

My point is, yes he's missed votes, just like every other senator. It doesn't make him unfit or irresponsible any more than it makes McCain unfit.

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