I find this to be an interesting story, and from the beginning I knew there was something else going on aside from just a so-called community center going in near ground zero.

Link

Follow the Shariah Index Project to solve the puzzle of the 6 mystery floors: We found two hidden websites with  copiously deleted information, all about the Imam’s Cordoba Institute Shariah Index Project.  For reference, here’s the Imam’s most recent hidden website (also available here as a pdf).  And here’s the Imam’s earlierhidden website (also available here as a pdf).  The information on those websites – information that the Imam tried to hide with a new whitewashed version – suggests that the six mystery floors of the Ground Zero Mosque will be dedicated to the Imam’s long-term goal: the Shariah Index Project, designed to benchmark Shariah compliance, to distribute Shariah propaganda, and to enforce Shariah law in America and worldwide.

Drawing from those hidden webpages and other sites, we’ve constructed a timeline for the Shariah Index Project and a partial list of Rauf’s partners in the Project.  In Part 2, we’ll reveal the disturbing background and views of those partners.  And in Part 3, we’ll present the bottom line – how this all ties together as a historic Islamist effort to market and to enforce Shariah in America, starting from Ground Zero.

As usual we have to rely on bloggers to investigate.  The mainstream media is too busy labeling everyone has racists to help support their democrat allies.


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on Aug 26, 2010

That is the 3rd time that point has been made by (I believe) 3 different posters. Yet he continues to not understand it. I do not think repeating it ad infinitum is going to help him understand it.

well I think this is the second time I've said it only changing it up a bit thinking maybe he'd finally get it if I said it a diff way.  I don't know why because I'm usually not that optimistic when it comes to humanistic thinking. 

 

 

on Aug 27, 2010

And Dan's not trying to change anybody's mind, he's lashing out

Good point - but then that seems to be the modus operandi of most liberals.

on Aug 27, 2010

If it is true that the mosque near Ground Zero is to promote tolerance,
I suggest that a gay nightclub be opened next door to the mosque.
 
Two names suggested are:
"The Turban Cowboy", and "You Mecca Me Hot".
 
On the other side they should open a butcher shop that specializes in pork!
And across the street a store that sells and displays bikinis or ladies lingerie on manikins...or live models.

 

Well.... so much for the modus operandi of this BHL GrandDoc.

on Aug 27, 2010

DrJBHL
If it is true that the mosque near Ground Zero is to promote tolerance,
I suggest that a gay nightclub be opened next door to the mosque.
 
Two names suggested are:
"The Turban Cowboy", and "You Mecca Me Hot".

I have heard that suggested (and many more names for the club).

on Aug 27, 2010

You're serious? You're really concerned that the they're just going to start killing non-believers.

Oh, that's right... they've never done that before.  Silly me.

on Aug 27, 2010

Dan posts #5

I 'get' the reality here: The mosque - at the very least - is in poor taste, but there isn't anything anybody do about it.

That sort of situation, in which the irrational types can't compete with what's rational - often results in such conspiracy nonsense---like these clowns who would love for you to believe that Al Quaada is getting offices in downtown NYC.

But look, we already have plenty of nuts looking to enforce their religious values on the rest of the country.

Dan posts #55:

Do you seriously believe that is a real risk if the muslim folks put up a mosque near ground zero?

Dan posts #76

Why does believing that somebody has a right to build a church ----however in poor taste --- mean that there's some sort of ideological alignment? To me, that seems a fundamental right. I think I read that somewhere.

 

Ok then. So muslims who want Sharia law have that freedom of speech to. Build the mosque!

No. I'm a common sense catholic. Not a crazy one.

Dan,

For whatever reason you are always averting to yourself as Catholic. It seems you want a mosque built. But what disturbs me is the intolerance of Muslims. There is a huge colony of diplomatic and business people residing in Riyadh, the capitol of Saudi Arabia, including a great number of your fellow Catholics.

Since you believe in the construction of mosgues, how about going public and demanding that the Saudi Arabian government take immediate steps to allow a Catholic Church to be built on extra-territorial ground in Riyadh so that your co-relgionists may fulfill their religious duties? 

Why should Muslims be able to worship at a mosque here in the US, while your fellow Catholics have no church in Riyadh?

Where is the reciprocity from them?

 

on Aug 28, 2010


You're serious? You're really concerned that the they're just going to start killing non-believers.
Oh, that's right... they've never done that before.  Silly me.

I am glad you see the light Daiwa.  We all know that those stories are just plants from the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.  The truth is Bush did it.

on Aug 29, 2010

I found the perspective of Daniel Pearl's father to be of interest.

on Aug 29, 2010

lulapilgrim
Dan posts #5 I 'get' the reality here: The mosque - at the very least - is in poor taste, but there isn't anything anybody do about it.That sort of situation, in which the irrational types can't compete with what's rational - often results in such conspiracy nonsense---like these clowns who would love for you to believe that Al Quaada is getting offices in downtown NYC.But look, we already have plenty of nuts looking to enforce their religious values on the rest of the country.Dan posts #55:Do you seriously believe that is a real risk if the muslim folks put up a mosque near ground zero? Dan posts #76 Why does believing that somebody has a right to build a church ----however in poor taste --- mean that there's some sort of ideological alignment? To me, that seems a fundamental right. I think I read that somewhere.  Ok then. So muslims who want Sharia law have that freedom of speech to. Build the mosque!No. I'm a common sense catholic. Not a crazy one. Dan,For whatever reason you are always averting to yourself as Catholic. It seems you want a mosque built. But what disturbs me is the intolerance of Muslims. There is a huge colony of diplomatic and business people residing in Riyadh, the capitol of Saudi Arabia, including a great number of your fellow Catholics.Since you believe in the construction of mosgues, how about going public and demanding that the Saudi Arabian government take immediate steps to allow a Catholic Church to be built on extra-territorial ground in Riyadh so that your co-relgionists may fulfill their religious duties? Why should Muslims be able to worship at a mosque here in the US, while your fellow Catholics have no church in Riyadh?Where is the reciprocity from them? 
lulapilgrim
Dan posts #5 I 'get' the reality here: The mosque - at the very least - is in poor taste, but there isn't anything anybody do about it.That sort of situation, in which the irrational types can't compete with what's rational - often results in such conspiracy nonsense---like these clowns who would love for you to believe that Al Quaada is getting offices in downtown NYC.But look, we already have plenty of nuts looking to enforce their religious values on the rest of the country.Dan posts #55:Do you seriously believe that is a real risk if the muslim folks put up a mosque near ground zero? Dan posts #76 Why does believing that somebody has a right to build a church ----however in poor taste --- mean that there's some sort of ideological alignment? To me, that seems a fundamental right. I think I read that somewhere.  Ok then. So muslims who want Sharia law have that freedom of speech to. Build the mosque!No. I'm a common sense catholic. Not a crazy one. Dan,For whatever reason you are always averting to yourself as Catholic. It seems you want a mosque built. But what disturbs me is the intolerance of Muslims. There is a huge colony of diplomatic and business people residing in Riyadh, the capitol of Saudi Arabia, including a great number of your fellow Catholics.Since you believe in the construction of mosgues, how about going public and demanding that the Saudi Arabian government take immediate steps to allow a Catholic Church to be built on extra-territorial ground in Riyadh so that your co-relgionists may fulfill their religious duties? Why should Muslims be able to worship at a mosque here in the US, while your fellow Catholics have no church in Riyadh?Where is the reciprocity from them? 

There's a problem with your premise; you're comparing the USA with Saudi Arabia. They're not exactly the same boots in the box. With the former, there exists (or, well, there is supposed to) a certain freedom of expression, religion, and within limits, the freedom to build what you want. With the latter, there isn't.

Two different countries, two different set of laws.

Further, if I may offer an answer to your question; I would assume that he would naturally desire some reciprocity for his fellow Catholics, but I would think that it comes down to the fact that Saudi Arabia is not his country, and it would be like the Saudi Arabians or Chinese telling us what to do or how to act.

Continuing on, you ask, "Why should Muslims be able to worship at a mosque here in the US?"

Well, quite simply, we have freedom of religion, Saudi Arabia doesn't. Though, the last I heard the Pope was talking with SA's King about possibly having a church built.

Life is tough and you won't always get that reciprocity, even if you feel it is right. You don't get what you want sometimes. The best thing we can do is to not base our arguments off of emotions or things similar to it.

 

on Aug 29, 2010

The best thing we can do is to not base our arguments off of emotions or things similar to it.

absolutley agree.  We are living in a time of the warm fuzzies.  Everyone has their own interpretation of what that is and that's what they based their decisions/opinions on. 

 

on Aug 29, 2010

KFC Kickin For Christ


The best thing we can do is to not base our arguments off of emotions or things similar to it.
absolutley agree.  We are living in a time of the warm fuzzies.  Everyone has their own interpretation of what that is and that's what they based their decisions/opinions on. 
 

 

You know, I can hardly believe we're agreeing on this KFC.Then again, albeit for different reasons, we both like Mike Huckabee.

I've always felt you based your opinions on the emotions that come with being a devout believer in God. Sure, there's intellectual handy work along side it, but, in some ways (as I've come to realize through hind sight) I always (unconsciously/habitually) dismissed your comments because I've always felt that they were based more on what I consider myth, magic, and hocus pocus (god, bible, etc.), instead of fact and logic. 

I'm glad to see you admit that everyone has their own interpretation. Maybe we could extent that into the theological realm?

Best.

on Aug 30, 2010

You know, I can hardly believe we're agreeing on this KFC.Then again, albeit for different reasons, we both like Mike Huckabee.

Luke???

My opinions are NOT based on emotion.  In fact, I abhor that really.  See it all the time.  My opinions are basesd on truth, facts, and evidences.  Nothing to do with feelings. 

I'm dealing with a "christian" friend now, who really doesn't want the truth.  She's basing everything off from emotion and the warm fuzzies and I'm afraid has got herself involved with a cult.   She can't see the red flags waving all around her because her eyes are closed with the "feel good" mentality. 

As far as the theological realm goes, there is only ONE interpretation of the bible.  It's own.  The bible interprets itself.  Sure, some take it out of context and interpret it for themselves making it say what they want.  But if you take the bible and let it interpret itself, being honest, you'd see there is no need for any outside interpretation. 

on Aug 30, 2010

Milonas

I've always felt that they were based more on what I consider myth, magic, and hocus pocus (god, bible, etc.), instead of fact and logic. 

I'm glad to see you admit that everyone has their own interpretation. Maybe we could extent that into the theological realm?

Best.

 Jean Paul Sartre has said that the basic philosophic question is that something is there rather than that nothing is there.  Nothing is worth callling philosophy can sidestep the question of the fact that THINGS DO EXIST in their present form and complexity.  In other words, Philosophy is not about trying to show that there is nothing but that there is something.

The bible isn't hocus pocus.  Its kind of funny hocus pocus if you knew the origins of that phrase. The bible has been shown to be quite historically  accurate.

on Aug 30, 2010

KFC Kickin For Christ

You know, I can hardly believe we're agreeing on this KFC.Then again, albeit for different reasons, we both like Mike Huckabee.


Luke???

My opinions are NOT based on emotion.  In fact, I abhor that really.  See it all the time.  My opinions are basesd on truth, facts, and evidences.  Nothing to do with feelings. 

I'm dealing with a "christian" friend now, who really doesn't want the truth.  She's basing everything off from emotion and the warm fuzzies and I'm afraid has got herself involved with a cult.   She can't see the red flags waving all around her because her eyes are closed with the "feel good" mentality. 

As far as the theological realm goes, there is only ONE interpretation of the bible.  It's own.  The bible interprets itself.  Sure, some take it out of context and interpret it for themselves making it say what they want.  But if you take the bible and let it interpret itself, being honest, you'd see there is no need for any outside interpretation. 

Yup.

Oh I know that now, but then you and I could, and have in the past, debate on the facts you use. Additionally, i could, and I'm tempted to, debate on your last paragraph.

But, I should be working.

Best.

on Aug 30, 2010

Lula posts:

Dan,

For whatever reason you are always averting to yourself as Catholic. It seems you want a mosque built. But what disturbs me is the intolerance of Muslims. There is a huge colony of diplomatic and business people residing in Riyadh, the capitol of Saudi Arabia, including a great number of your fellow Catholics.

Since you believe in the construction of mosgues, how about going public and demanding that the Saudi Arabian government take immediate steps to allow a Catholic Church to be built on extra-territorial ground in Riyadh so that your co-relgionists may fulfill their religious duties?

Why should Muslims be able to worship at a mosque here in the US, while your fellow Catholics have no church in Riyadh?

Where is the reciprocity from them?

Milonas posts:

you're comparing the USA with Saudi Arabia. They're not exactly the same boots in the box. With the former, there exists (or, well, there is supposed to) a certain freedom of expression, religion, and within limits, the freedom to build what you want. With the latter, there isn't.

I know. I used Saudi Arabia to make my point about the intolerance of Muslims. Radical Muslims, their culture and Islam is what it is no matter where they are...NYC or Saudi Arabia. Afterall, the Mosque backers were arguing for religious tolerance and so called interfaith cooperation. It is on this basis that I asked, where's the reciprocity from Muslims.

Muslims believe in triumphalism and that's why they want to build at ground zero and no where else. It's a trophy place to commemorate the attack carried out in the name of Islam against the West on 9/11.

 

Life is tough and you won't always get that reciprocity, even if you feel it is right. You don't get what you want sometimes. The best thing we can do is to not base our arguments off of emotions or things similar to it.

The best thing we can do is to not base our arguments off of emotions or things similar to it.

Agree. I'd say my arguments have been based upon common sense and common decency.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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