The documents released from Hawaii are not legit. I wan't to see the original. The one in the picture has a date of 2001 on it. 

It's just a document. If it exisit we deserve to see it. 

Maybe his true second name isn't "Hussein" and he doesn't want people to know?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Stubbyfinger shoots and scores.

Anyone still bitching after reading the link is just looking for things that aren't there.  Is THAT proof enough, ID?  John?

Every single argument against it that's been raised is obliterated in that one article.  Anything else to whine about?

Yes there is. I want to see the original. If I request a copy of my birth certificate today it comes in the form of a copy of the micro fiche with a raised seal. Until I see the original document, it's just not proof. 

People can be paid off. Documents can be faked. These two actions happen everyday. Why should I believe a person producing a recently created document? 

~AD totally hijacks thread

Leuki, how were you able to upload ur penquin picture?  I went to update my picture and now I can't upload a picture in My Account. 

~end hijacking.

I only have to add that Phillip Berg is STILL trying to press this issue even after the FactCheck.org produced article.  Considering Annenberg Foundation's ties to Obama I can see why one would want to see the ORIGINAL. 

That is All.

The Factcheck.org (an Annenberg association) has been disputed plenty of times.  What is so wrong about wanting to see the original document?  Why doesn't he release it?

wavin back @ your sublime self lw! 

lafftin is the better & preferred alternative here.  sad as it may be witnessing the descent into pathology of what once might likely have passed as functioning brains, i'm not tearing up even a drop.  

Oh, so you guys want your vewwy own copy sent to your vewwy own addwess.

I get it.

et tu, sc? 

my exact reason for posting said link several hours and perhaps 10 replies earlier than stubbyfinger (not that i wanna diminish his efforts in the least...but bitchin about anything even .01% rational in this thread almost seems justifiable).

yeah but...then you concede:

in other words, you wanna see HIS original...even tho you're able only to obtain a mere copy of your own bc? 

can't be too vigilant nor suspicious.  i suggest you waterboard your parents and the medical professionals who assisted at your delivery til they cop to the horrible things they been coverin up all these years.

notta damn thing. 

which is why i wanna see your original birth certificate. 

not a copy nor any form of artful reproduction no matter how identical it may appear. 

soon as you lemme know it's in your possession, i'll arrange to have it picked up by a bonded courier who will handcuff it to his person and deliver it for my inspection.  afterwards it'll be returned to you along with a couple bucks for your trouble...and my sincerest thanks, of course.

dammit, now id ain't gonna have nothing to write about next.

What evidence would you belive?  The official in charge saying it was genuine?  'cos thats been done.

If they release the original would you belive that seeing as 'documents can be faked'?  Even if you saw it with your own eyes would you belive it?

Does it matter?  I simply find it amusing that the tactics used against Bush (the honest ones, not the Dan Rather Fraud) are being used against the left now.  And how they howl!  Et tu, Brute?

Democrats love a controversy.  Otherwise, Obama would have released it and made this a non-issue.  He wants to keep this on the forefront, so people do not pay attention to his activities behind the curtain.