Every day I visit tons of website, forums, and social networks for all types of topics, most of which are technology based in some sort of form.  This election cycle has really brought out the best of the liberal “group think” mentality regarding Obama.  On just about every social network Obama is praised as “the one” and any hint of disagreement with his policies or ideals is immediately responded with accusations of racism, or just plain insults.  Anybody who wants to claim that liberals are tolerant to others, please give me a shout because I can quickly debunk that.  Even here on our network of sites, there have been insults tossed at the slightest hint of either supporting McCain, or being against Obama.  I’m certainly not saying conservatives don’t dish out their fair share, but the mentality of liberals has once again bordered on the insane and hateful.

It’s tough being a proud conservative, as I will say what I think regardless of what the group and mob mentality is.  The real shame is so many people, especially bloggers in the tech area, are afraid to do the same.  I have received so many private notes and comments in support of standing up for conservatism, it’s almost crazy.  The best comparison I can make is how conservative actors in Hollywood are often ridiculed or turned down for roles because of their conservative beliefs, and the same mentality is going on right now in the blogosphere.  Conservative bloggers, some of which can be considered A-list are having to remain silent about their thoughts on Obama and McCain, simply because they are afraid of retribution from their employers or just not being able to pickup work from other sites.  It’s a shame, and it’s more telling about liberals than it is anything.

I am a conservative, I don’t like Obama, and I will never let anyone intimidate me because of that. 


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on Oct 31, 2008

Because those opposed to the war imply that American lives matter, but no other lives do. And you are right - we did not spend a trillion invading chicago - just trillions trying to clean it up (and counting).
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It's seems the pro war crowd loves to spread that crap too 'we lost less people in Iraq than in Chicago' . a shitload more people died in Iraq.

Got numbers to say America spent 'trillions ' cleaning Chicago up?

on Oct 31, 2008

look forward to you canceling out my vote Tuesday Bug........oh wait!.....you can't!

on Oct 31, 2008

Well, actually, Yes, it does.  And casts at least some doubt on the underpinnings of other arguments you've made.

Nice try.  But unlike you, I have cited my sources.  Enough that when I have stated something incorrectly, it has been able to be corrected. And even that correction didn't undermine my position or the validity or my argument.

I'm still waiting for you, Daiwa, to substantiate a single word you've said or position you've taken. 

- but if the end result turns out to be a relatively stable & democratic Iraq, I have no problem with us accepting 'responsibility' for it.

I'm sure all the dead and maimed will rest easier knowing you feel better about their innocent and needless casualties.

I hope you will therefore support the war reparations we're going to need to pay when all of that comes up.  We're going to be paying for this mistake for a VERY long time.

My main issue with Iraq is that we never do something so ill-conceived on such flimsy non-evidence for a clearly self-serving agenda again.  We lost our moral standing in the world because of this preemtive vendetta war, torture, illegal renditions, guantanamo bay, etc. I'd like the nation's commitment to "never again".

And one man running for President voted against the war THEN and has been proven right NOW.

PS  Oh, on Iraq, don't be surprised when those three ancient factions who have hated each other for longer than we've been a nation finally split up and try and kick us out.  Their nation was artificially slapped together by the British a century ago, and like Yugoslavia after WW2, it was only a matter of time before it split apart.  With Syria and Iran resurgent within Iraq, even if Iraq stays together, the odds are it will go the route of Hamas in Palestine or Hizbollah in Lebanon.  Some societies (based on pre-Feudal political/religious structures) are not yet ready for Western-style democracy.  In fact the only one that WAS Pro-West leaning in that part of the world was the one we completely screwed up due to our Cold War monkeying around...Iran.  And we've all seen how well that's worked out...ahem.  Our actions have echoes for decades, even centuries, not just within 4 year election cycles.  It's time for this teenaged nation to grow up and accept some adult responsibility in the world.

on Oct 31, 2008

Lantec
look forward to you canceling out my vote Tuesday Bug........oh wait!.....you can't!

the irony of that statement is probably lost on you.

on Oct 31, 2008

This thread hasn't died yet?

on Oct 31, 2008

DrJBHL

I'm afraid I really don't know where you live, but here on Earth compare JFK, Bill Clinton and George Bush (either) with respect to regard the world holds. Why is it that across the world, Obama is favored  4:1 over McCain ?

Interesting figure.... what is your source?

Whenever I see something like this stated, I have to challenge it.

I bet you no one favors Obama over McCain except locally in the US with regards to U.S. voters.

The world probably does not favor one over the other - why would they?

on Oct 31, 2008

damn double replies...

on Oct 31, 2008

Dr Guy

Fine then It's not 'racism' . What would you call the ignorance of Iraqi casualties? Are Amercians the only people affected by the war in Iraq?


During Saddam?  How soon we forget. But you seem to be a rational person, let me ask you.  Is an Iraqi life less important than an American life?

I'm only counting Iraqi casualties since the invasion, since the numbers in the original email quoted in this thread compared American casualties in Iraq to the murdet list in Chicago, convienently forgetting that American lives aren't the only one being lost in Iraq .

To answer the Saddam Question. America didn't seem to care so much when they hung the Kurds out to dry at Gulf War 1. and the ..12 years between the end of GW1 and this war. so why did America have to wait untill 2003 and then make up shit about 'ties to 9/11' and 'Mobile WMD factories' and shit like that to get America into this war?

on Oct 31, 2008

DrJBHL
This thread hasn't died yet?

perhaps it should.

Perhaps the stupidity that is JU crossposting should be stopped too.

on Oct 31, 2008

created Saddam Hussein

launched the first Gulf War to take their creation to the woodshed when he went off the reservation

launched the second Gulf War to finish the job and take the oil

DO you know how to tell the truth?  Apparently not.

DId not create Saddam Hussein (that would be stretch even for a loon).

Pushed Saddam out of a soveriegn country (I guess you answered my previous question - i.e. if they are not Americans their lives are worthless).

Must be chinese now since they got the oil contract.

If you are going to post like an idiot, do it on an idiot web site, not here.

on Oct 31, 2008

To answer the Saddam Question. America didn't seem to care so much when they hung the Kurds out to dry at Gulf War 1. and the ..12 years between the end of GW1 and this war. so why did America have to wait untill 2003 and then make up shit about 'ties to 9/11' and 'Mobile WMD factories' and shit like that to get America into this war?

 

selective memory...America was the only one protecting the Kurds after operation desert storm. We drew a line in the sand and sent in our aircraft to chase Saddam's forces back across the line.

If you had actually been paying attention prior to GW2 as you call it, it was Saddam's refusal to let inspector's in to meet the obligations of Desert Storm surrender that led to the invasion. If we could have proved there were no WMD's via the AGREED TO inspections GWB would have been unable to gain congressional support for any action in Iraq

 

interesting.... http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/obama-plane-pitches-reporters-mccain-endorsing-papers/

on Oct 31, 2008

If you check the state by state polls, you'll find that Obama is leading in many states by 65% to 35% and in others by 54% to 40%, etc.

Not even in your wet dreams.  The "reputable" ones put it at a 3-7% race (about right).  It will probably be in the 3-5% range on the win side.  Still, it shows that you dont know what you are talking about.

Sorry. Not taking the diversionary bait. Let's stick to the subjects at hand. See my previous post for a proper rebuttal.

A proper rebuttal has facts.  SO far you have none.

Nope. Research why the Chinese have had to stop their 1 child per family policy for the reasons I stated above. Other countries, developed and otherwise, have to do the same thing, as the number of WORKING AGE taxpayers as a ratio to elderly dependants is trending DOWN for every nation except ours...due to illegal immigration.

So you are proving yourself the fool.  Guess what?  The world is not China and Europe.

Nixon got us out after the American people put a gun to his head and ordered him to.

I would guess you are young with mush in your head filled with a bunch of hippie teachers.  So far, you have gotten nothing right (oh, and check out the article where the courts stated Wikipedia is not an authoratative source).

Nixon got us out of JOhnson's war.  SO you were wrong when you made the statement and you are wrong here.  NO guns to heads.  Just a very perverted view of history.

he escalated and widened the conflict into adjoining nations (Cambodia, Laos, etc.) along with Johnson, and yes Kennedy started it in a failed effort to cover France's retreating ass, hehe.

Wrong all the way around!  He did nothign in conjunction with JOhnson, the french were long gone when Kennedy got into it. 

George Bush has done more damage to this country in his sleep than Carter could have ever done awake. And Carter wasn't all that bad of a president...everyone just made fun of him because he was a peanut farmer.

I take it history is not your strong point.  But unfortunately for you, history will show you how myopic and wrong you are. 

It's seems the pro war crowd loves to spread that crap too 'we lost less people in Iraq than in Chicago' . a shitload more people died in Iraq.

You dont read much do you.  Care to reread the part you quoted and then ask a germaine question (or give an intelligent statement)?

on Oct 31, 2008

To answer the Saddam Question. America didn't seem to care so much when they hung the Kurds out to dry at Gulf War 1. and the ..12 years between the end of GW1 and this war. so why did America have to wait untill 2003 and then make up shit about 'ties to 9/11' and 'Mobile WMD factories' and shit like that to get America into this war?

I am not asking America, I am asking you.  And dont forget who was president when those Kurds were hung out to dry.

SO are some people more equal than others?

on Oct 31, 2008

Dr Guy




You dont read much do you.  Care to reread the part you quoted and then ask a germaine question (or give an intelligent statement)?

You obviously don't , because this line of discussion STARTED when someone posted an email comparing American casualties in Iraq withe the murder rate in Chicago. Comprehension isn't your strong suit. How about you come back after you reread the thread?

on Oct 31, 2008

Dr Guy

To answer the Saddam Question. America didn't seem to care so much when they hung the Kurds out to dry at Gulf War 1. and the ..12 years between the end of GW1 and this war. so why did America have to wait untill 2003 and then make up shit about 'ties to 9/11' and 'Mobile WMD factories' and shit like that to get America into this war?


I am not asking America, I am asking you.  And dont forget who was president when those Kurds were hung out to dry.

SO are some people more equal than others?

Yah , Bush Senior.

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