So what are you reason for supporting him other than the fact that he's a cool guy.  Is this the right light you speak of? Coolness?  

So I guess seeing the fact that my taxes are going to skyrocket and interest rates will end up making a hole in the proverbial roof is the wrong kind of light?  I not trying to be cynical here, but your statement say nothing other than the fact that he's a cool dude.

Yeah, that’s exactly what I am afraid of.

I remember him and Hillary both said they promised that everyone was going to have a national health care card.  I remember the word promise being used a lot during his campaign.

But guess what.  She has more executive experience than any of the other candidates.  But I do understand your concern on this issue.  But I have enough confidence in John McCain to provide the necessary tools and to have in company the right people to make the transition if the need were to ever arise.  

Sorry Goo, everything I said was true but I sure wouldn’t want any of it in a leader. I’m afraid that it’s all ridiculous to me ergo a joke and that’s what I’m doing. If it’s either laugh or cry I’ll opt for laughing every time.

agreed...

Fine then It's not 'racism' . What would you call the ignorance of Iraqi casualties? Are Amercians the only people affected by the war in Iraq?

If you are as passionate about the condition of the Native American as I am then put your money where you mouth is.

Like I do, every month. I could give more if the mob didn't take their cut out of my paycheck.

In case you didn't already fine out, that is an illegal word here, using it could get you an unpleasant PM.

Don't get on ME about that war! If you have been reading, you know how I feel about Bush and his damn war.
Conservative DOES NOT mean Republican.

That is precisely the short-sighted attitude that has allowed these men to keep coming back administration after administration to do wrong after wrong.  I haven't forgotten that these very same me...

created Saddam Hussein

launched the first Gulf War to take their creation to the woodshed when he went off the reservation

launched the second Gulf War to finish the job and take the oil

If we had taken care of them to begin with, or had looked at their past actions as an indicator of their future deeds, we would NOT be in the mess we are in right now.

If we had stopped the HMO lobby from killing Health Care reform in the 90's, we wouldn't be so ultra-screwed in HAVING NO CHOICE but to fix it ten years later.

Problems like this don't just go away.  They get worse and worse and worse.

Most politicians hope to get out of office and into their cushie private sector jobs before they are called to account for failing to act.   And that inherently short-sighted, selfish thinking is the reason the country is so utterly screwed today.

Not me. I was born here as you were(I'm betting).

or

Yes we probably are to one degree or another.

k10w3,

I would like to thank you for sparking an idea in my head for a cursor theme. That's how the really good ones happen, they just hit ya.

While there are numerous studies, the American Government has kept secret their own death tolls, for obvious reasons.

Here is an article from 2006 that represents the LOWEST agreed to figure by BOTH sides, US and Iraqi, at 150,000 innocent civilians killed.

It eliminates suicides, accidents, and combatant deaths, etc.

Other estimates put this figure as high as 600,000 but that more than likely includes the deaths excluded above.

Either way, these deaths WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED if we hadn't pre-emptively invaded Iraq.

I'm not shedding tears for Saddam and his despicable sons, but I have always maintained that a few million dollars worth of cruise missiles were a better solution to the Saddam problem than a trillion dollars and 4,000+ American lives.

If you check the state by state polls, you'll find that Obama is leading in many states by 65% to 35% and in others by 54% to 40%, etc. 

And, checking this as just one of the electoral college maps, you'll see that Obama vs. McCain currently represents a 2 to 1 LANDSLIDE of greater than Reagan proportions and represents, clearly, the will of the vast MAJORITY of the American people.

I assumed you were up on all of this, and didn't need to be handed what are easily available facts on every major news site.

Well, now you know.

Sorry.  Not taking the diversionary bait.  Let's stick to the subjects at hand.  See my previous post for a proper rebuttal.

That's all fine and dandy but what does it have to do with Obama fixing health care?

Nope.  Research why the Chinese have had to stop their 1 child per family policy for the reasons I stated above.  Other countries, developed and otherwise, have to do the same thing, as the number of WORKING AGE taxpayers as a ratio to elderly dependants is trending DOWN for every nation except ours...due to illegal immigration.

You may not want to admit that we, as a nation, need them.  But the facts are facts. I hope I have opened your eyes to the current state of immigration and world population trends as they affect our race and our planet over the next 50 years.

I'm old enough to remember watching the first Moon Landing on the TV, so I have seen well over 40 years of Presidents and their administrations.  I'm also fortunate to have met, in person, many of them - some, like Reagan, more than once. 

None that this is relevant, of course.  You're just trying to have a pissing contest with John Holmes. 

TRUTH:  Here's just one simple to find source...complete with citations.

I'm not making this up.  I witnessed all of this, as it happened, and I REMEMBER the lies and the spin they used then, and what they used in the Gulf War, and then what they used in 2003.  If you don't, consider yourself educated.

Either way consider yourself SERVED.