Experience.

Well, to be fair, he did sort of cavort with Keating.  I think that was overblown, but is a fact.

FactCheck.org has a more accurate take on Obama's association with Acorn. It has to be noted that there is no evidence of fraud on the part of Acorn, only of employees trying to meet quotas to keep their jobs. And even if there was it would have been almost impossible for Obama to know this.

McCain has also spoken highly of them at one of their events.

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Did obama not REPRESENT acorn as a lawyer? was obama not given a high management position in acorn by ayers when he was fresh out of college with no experience? was obama not a chief trainer in acorn? The movies, speeches, etc, speak for themselves.

Acorn hires knwon criminals because they say they perform just as well as people without a criminal background, but those criminals are then given access to peoples private data which many have used to spoof identities or find victims for violent crime.

If acorn sets quotas encouraging people to create FAKE voters then acorn is at fault with its quota setting.

Acorn has committed massive voter fraud in most places where it operates. The worst example by far was when one branch submitted 1800 voter registration cards, out of which only 6 were real people. In a more large scale case, checking 50k registrations form them showed 85% to be fraudulent.

There is always the... possibility... that mccain is not a criminal like obama. He claims to have built his career on hunting down corrupt official from both parties... if that is the case he might actually be clean (weather that is because he respect the law, or just feels he has more to gain by hunting down criminals then being one is irrelevant)

how else is ACORN expected to pay irregular workers? apparently its illegal to pay per registration. so how else is ACORN supposed to conduct its business? a quota seems perfectly reasonable to me, and to ACORN's credit, they put all of their forms through a very in depth screening process. very few false registrations make it & even so, nobody votes using those documents. FYI ACORN hires criminals as part of a rehabilitation process that most prisons make use of.

prove that Obama is more of a criminal than anyone on this board. If all you can say is that he hangs out with criminals, then you must have forgotten who McCain has been meeting with, giving speeches to, & voting with. Bush & ACORN. just now i saw a speech that McCain gave to ACORN, last time i did research about ACORN, i saw McCain attending another ACORN rally. & lets not forget that McCain has been a Bush supporter for some time. For those who may not realise it, Bush is a worse criminal than Ayers. Atleast Ayers was honest about his intentions, Bush lied to America to start a war that was pointless and unneccesary. What happened to finding & punishing Osama Bin Laden? was he not in Afghanistan? after 9-11, i admit i did not realise the full implications ( i was still in elementary school @ the time) but I stil had the sense to think "hey shouldnt we be going after the guy who caused all this?" at 1st we did, but then everyone seemed to forget about afghanistan & focused on Iraq. If Osama didnt die of old age, then hes sitting relativly cormfortable in a cave somewhere while his agents continue to terrorize and kill american citizens and soldiers.So if haveing a breif committe meeting w/ Ayers present makes you a criminal, then how come McCain hasnt been thrown in prison or hung yet?

You can pretty much consider yourself disregarded whenever you use the phrase 'Bush lied' - the sure sign of a thoughtless DK bot.

proove it? you have seen one proof after another brought by many people, in video and in audio...

Bush lied? oh please...

Mccain with acorn? on video? show me.

How the fuck did ayers avoid the chair?

Friends (Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Schumer) in high places.

obviously not if ur so willing to comment about it

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Acorn_pushes_back_hugs_McCain.html?showall

that 1 is a pic w/ a story my internet is not being very cooperative right now but if u go to colbertnation.com you can look up his latest video (october 20 i believe) which has the video of McCains speech to ACORN

right.. so a picture of mccain... which could be anywhere, with a title that says he is at acorn, where he seems to be... sitting...

Not quite as incriminating as barak movies where he is flat out saying what his connection to acorn is. (he takes pride in it, heck he says that is what makes him fit for president... "pre senate experience" so he says)

well i already told you it was a pic & you didnt metion at all if you checked colbertnation.com, and i would take pridew in working for/with ACORN too. they do a lot of good work, they just got a bad rep recently because politicions have blown its problems way out of proportion.

colbernation.... shows videos of some liberal talk show host trying to use the "ridicule method of mind control" (aka, label something as ridiculous, and no matter how correct it is people would be afraid to even question it... sounds like "get this people, they say that you could save gas by... INFLATING YOUR TIRES! I can not make this up!"). It doesn't help that he has a "fake laugh" soundtrack play along every now and then.

And his arguments are retarded too.

Acorn... where to begin... what does acorn do?

1. Register (unemployed?) liberals to vote, thus further undermining our economy, military, and government. (this is their STATED purpose and the one that they are open about)

If they just tried to register everyone, and encouraged political discourse where people could come and argue their points it would be fine.

2. Put pressure on the government to deregulate sub par lending, thus helping facilitate the housing crisis. (also part of their stated purpose).

3. Harass, stalk, and threatened bank execs to make them give out more sub par lowns. (some of it is stated, using demonstrations for example)

4. Sue banks to help them force more sub par lowns.

5. Bulk register fake votes and use them to vote democrat.

6. Work on silencing conservatives. (such as the case recently with the claim of threats to obama's life, but for some reason they cannot produce the record of the phone call their representative made).

7. Hire convicted criminals to handle the voter registrations (lets rehabilitate criminals by giving them all the info they need to steal a person's identity or plan out some crimes).

The absurd thing is that people protect them. The entire stated purpose of the organization is criminal and harmful to society, and any orginization IS responsible by law for the actions of its employees, why? because they facilitate those harmful actions by not having proper checks and balances, observations, internal oversight, etc...

Acorns state purpose?

A couple of bad eggs is out of proportion.  Multiple states investigating improprieties and felons coming forward with their stories is a deserved reputation.  It is a shame you would be associated with such an organization.,That speaks to your character (or lack thereof).

apparently you didnt even bother to watch many (if any at all) of his videos. ever since his own bid for the white house was crushed, colbert has been rooting for McCain (at least on every single show ive seen). and would that "ridicule method of mind control" include cracking jokes about McCain's brother calling 911 to comlpain about traffic? or making fun of ACORN because of their name? Colbet cracks jokes & does stupid things to illistrate his points. for instance, on 1 of his shows, he makes fun of McCain for bringing up his time as a POW so much. Hes trying to bring to the attention of his veiwers the fact that McCains used to answer many questions that usually have nothing to do with his past in any way, with the whole POW speech. hes not brainwashing you hes giving you something to think about.

thats funny, ive never heard, read, or even seen any evidence of ACORN registering only liberals. & how is helping citizens excercise their right to vote undermine the country? isnt the right to vote part of the basis of our country?

ive already said that im not a fan of everything ACORN does, so unless you missed that part, then all of that was just to make ACORN look bad (which is totally unnesseccary for anyone who actually did their homework)

*sighs*

i think that covers that. & even if ACORN was responsible, then they would need an awful lot of "Mickey Mouse" IDs.

well how else would you rehabilitate them? if you cant trust them with having other people fill out forms then what can you trust them with? and do you really think that ACORN would allow the "elite hackers or Identity theives" of the local jails to go unescorted? i doubt it.

its not that absurd, think about it. wouldnt you defend the person who gave you a voice? would you jail the person who is responsible for your ability to make a difference in the world? I would hate to be that person if so.

is that so bad? personally i could use a better house, better pay would b good too. it makes sense that people who hear about ACORN's stated purpose but havent heard about some of the worse things ACORN has done to defend them.

It speaks more of yours to judge someone you dont even know. especially if you happen to call yourself Christian. (not saying you do, but there is that possibility) and for the record, i have nothing to do with ACORN, im just standing up for them because they are recieving a lot more flak than they should.