Published on September 24, 2008 By Island Dog In Politics

It almost seems that the left hates Palin more than they hate Bush.  She seems to be the focus of every left-leaning website and publication out there on a daily basis.  The attacks on her and her family have been nothing short of discusting.  I have even had liberals tell me straight out, "she scares me".  Of course, when I ask for specifics they don't seem to have an answer, much like asking them about Obama's accomplishments.

I do understand how a strong, conservative woman like Palin can be intimidating to liberals, I mean she is tougher than most of them.  However, I'm curious as to what is the basis of all this hate.  Is it just because she's a conservative, or are there real reasons to fear her?


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on Sep 25, 2008

I don't think sexism is an issue.

I would have agreed - until it became a pattern.  One case is an anomoly.  2 cases and you are getting a pattern.  Do we need 150 million before people realize that it is indeed sexism?

on Sep 25, 2008

Its Alaska. Have you ever been there? They all wear blue jeans and baseball caps.

Just a side note...

Lived in Alaska, jeans are standard that's true (even called "Alaska casual" when attending events that have dress codes), but people don't get out much so when they do, (talking women here) they don't wear baseball caps.  In fact, the entire time I lived and traveled all over Alaska, the only women I ever saw in caps were in the military.

Also Wasilla is outside Anchorage, which is just like any other medium size city in the US.  It's on the coast of Alaska so doesn't have problems getting supplies..there are like 3 malls, and all the glitz and glamor of regular American cities.  People have mis-impressions about Alaska from tv and Hollyweird.  I know, I was one of them until I lived there.

Well, just look at Palin.  She buys her clothes in Alaska.  And other women have access to the same kind of stores.

All that to say, the women there dress just like women everywhere else, and if a group of them were in jeans and baseball caps, well you can read from that exactly the same thing as seeing women in the rest of the states in a group with jeans and baseball caps. 

 

on Sep 25, 2008

She is a Governor, so she has a record, anyone that "fears" her just needs to look there for the answers. Every election year we hear about abortion, then it's gone until the next election (unless stem cell research or some late term abortion drives it into the forefront). I don't see anything changing in that arena if McCain becomes president, he's as far left as a conservative can go. So it really boils down to other issues. She's popular in Alaska for a reason, maybe undecideds should see why that is so.

I don't think she has to worry about debating Biden, if she sticks to the issues. Biden should be worried about another gaff.

on Sep 25, 2008

It is obvious in that respect that she is misrepresenting many things.

 

Can you name ONE politician that hasn't or isn't being accused of this?

on Sep 25, 2008

People hate her because she's more conservative than the people who lost the republican primaries, who lost because they were so conservative.  Therefore, if she because VP and McCain dies, we'll get the republican version of Kucinich as POTUS. 

on Sep 25, 2008

She's popular in Alaska for a reason,

Because its a very rural state which bodes well for the GOP but also because she gave the residents an extra K from the oil revenues this year.

I worked on tankers going from Valdez and Nikiski to west coast ports for the better part of twenty years. The local papers told and still tell a very good story about her politics. Im sure much of what happened when she was Mayor and while she has been Gov is archived online. Whether you like her stance on issues or not is one thing but I can say that the campaign is seriously misrepresenting the facts.

on Sep 25, 2008

Also Wasilla is outside Anchorage, which is just like any other medium size city in the US

Close to half the states population lives in Anchorage and most of the trade for Alaska flows through its port.  However Wasilla really is small potatoes.I live in a town of about 2000 even smaller potatoes.

In any case wait until you see what the fallout from her NG pipeline deal is going to create.  Some people think the legal problems with the Wasilla Recreational Facility was bad, but if you know the history behind getting an Alaskan NG pipeline built you might see what a potential boondoggle this could be. Looks to me like it will be a mistake that costs the Alaskan taxpayers 500 million and counting.

 

So we go from a bridge to nowhere to a road to nowhere and next you will see a pipeline to nowhere. She makes all kinds of deals and commits tax dollars to them without knowing enough about the issues involved.

on Sep 25, 2008

People hate her because she's more conservative ...

 

What is the difference between hating someone you don't know personally because of their political affiliations and hating someone you don't know personally because of some other group affiliation such as sex, race, religion, etc.?

If it becomes morally acceptable to hate based on political affiliation, is it a stretch to believe hatred due to other affiliations may become ok as well?

on Sep 25, 2008

I'm happy to provide a few reasons why I will not vote on her side due to lack of trust on my part. Although, I will recognize she isn't the worst of conservatives by any means because she isn't as quick to jump at agenda without a more careful analysis and approach from different perspectives.

Opposes embryonic stem cell research
Wants to teach creationism alongside evolution in public schools
Teach intelligent design in public schools

I think she's against science

The nice thing though is that she has kept her stance on these issues quite separate from her politics. However, in my opinion and with my ideals, I don't think I can trust those views at a certain level of power.  It's not about her power to change things as possible President someday with a veto, because that would be dumb.  For me, it's about potential appointments to Supreme Court, because those "interpretations" of the Constitution can be mighty powerful.

on Sep 25, 2008

The nice thing though is that she has kept her stance on these issues quite separate from her politics.

Those really aren't the issues for many. They are mostly wedge issues that are used to pander votes. None of them will be implemented at the federal level any time soon. The world will go on if Fed money isnt used for Emb. stem cell research. Some states, universities and the private sector will fund research, but if you look at how Bush played with the issue its kinda funny. He simply toed a thin line until he got reelected. The same goes for the other issues. If states want to create their own flock thats fine with me. Many of the Evangelical lobbies who push these issue are just out for a buck and there will always be politicians willing to grab some of the take.

I can survive with either party at the helm. Its just a matter of using different tax breaks or investing my money a little differently so I look more at who their advisors are and who their cabinet might be to see if it fits the direction I think things should go. I do also look at whether I think they can actually handle the job. Im comfortable enough with McCain,Obama, and Biden but everything I've seen about Palin casts doubt. I honestly dont think she is competent enough for the job.

on Sep 26, 2008

I'm happy to provide a few reasons why I will not vote on her side due to lack of trust on my part.

All well and good, but the wuestion is not why you will not vote for her, but why you hate her.  Apparently you dont hate her, so I guess it is hard for you to answer for those that do.

Opposes embryonic stem cell research

Wants to teach creationism alongside evolution in public schools

Teach intelligent design in public schools

1. Actually for people who believe life begins at conception, it is not an issue of science.
2. That has been shown to be a myth.  I would hope you would at least get the facts right
3. As is this.  She said that the discussion of them should not be forbidden, and there is a big difference.  Her position is basically "I dont agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it" while those who are trying to pin her down with their lies are saying "I dont like what you are saying, so I am going to make sure you cant say it".

on Sep 26, 2008

1. Actually for people who believe life begins at conception, it is not an issue of science.
2. That has been shown to be a myth. I would hope you would at least get the facts right
3. As is this. She said that the discussion of them should not be forbidden, and there is a big difference. Her position is basically "I dont agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it" while those who are trying to pin her down with their lies are saying "I dont like what you are saying, so I am going to make sure you cant say it".

Kinda interesting how you put it the way it is yet I bet he will still say something along the lines of:

"That's not how I see it" or "that's not what she said" or "well I still won't vote for her".

on Sep 26, 2008

1. Actually for people who believe life begins at conception, it is not an issue of science.
2. That has been shown to be a myth. I would hope you would at least get the facts right
3. As is this. She said that the discussion of them should not be forbidden, and there is a big difference. Her position is basically "I dont agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it" while those who are trying to pin her down with their lies are saying "I dont like what you are saying, so I am going to make sure you cant say it".

Well done Doc.

on Sep 26, 2008

Relax.  We should also probably say something constructive instead of just repeating what Dr Guy said.  You'd have been better off saying nothing at all, AD.  While Dr Guy is correct in much of that statement and I can agree with what he said, I would like to point out:

1. That 'science' comment was meant to be a joke; hence the *wink*

2. She does favor the teaching of creationism alongside evolution and just has not politicized those views (which is a smart thing to do)

3. I'm well aware that she opened the discussions for intelligent design and evolution being taught simultaneously in Alaska and that she was in no way demanding or forceful.  I have done my reading and listening to her views.

Just putting the points out there for why I don't like her views did not imply that she was political with any of those aspects.  I attached that little disclaimer before putting those out there.  The fact that she has those points of view was my real message.  And yes, now some of you have realized that kurtin can be narrow-minded and open-minded.  It sometimes just depends on what we're talkin' about.

on Sep 26, 2008

2. She does favor the teaching of creationism alongside evolution and just has not politicized those views (which is a smart thing to do)

3. I'm well aware that she opened the discussions for intelligent design and evolution being taught simultaneously in Alaska and that she was in no way demanding or forceful. I have done my reading and listening to her views.

Kurtin,

Palin's running for VP....and last time I checked there was absolutely nothing in the job description or in the US Constitution that concerns setting a national educational curriculum.

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