Maybe instead of playing haunted house on an airplane, they should be out denouncing the real terrorists.  Then the next time, people wont jump when they say boo.

Oh come on.  You know we can't offend anyone anymore. 

Oh come on. You know we can't offend anyone anymore.

Is terror offending people?

Either provide links to your claims, or i'm callig BS.

Double Post

MSM link - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15824096/

More thorough article about their behavior - http://www.washtimes.com/national/20061128-122902-7522r.htm

Air marshal, security story - http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20061129-121812-1240r.htm

 

Thank you, I will read them asap.

Seems like a good plan to make things easier for their bombers to get onto planes. Pretty fart smellers.

If it was a stunt, then they were being suspicious enough to get "detained" thats on them. Praying loudly so as to attract attention to yourself, while not in itself suspicious, rude but hardly suspicious, how suspicious I don't know I wasn't there but nobody prays out-loud so as to attract attention.

Combined with the other behaviors, gathering in groups at the front and rear of the plane, as well as switching seats; That is all valid observational and behaviors like that especially if they are meant to intimidate other passengers, that can be looked at as disorderly conduct. I'm curious as to whether there was enough evidence to charge them with disorderly conduct.

"Sounds perfect right? Purposely get yourself kicked off an airplane, claim "racism", and try to make it illegal for people to report suspicious behavior just because they might be islamic."

If there is suspicious behaviors, not a single one but a combined and concerted effort by some then your duty is to report it. Regardless of racism or not, it's not profiling if you report suspicious behavior that might be a crime. What's a crime is reporting something when there is nothing suspicious about the behaviour. In this case from what I have read, clearly something was up and the people on the plane did the right thing.

If racism/Islamist extremistismshanism lol comments are what could be considered here's an example...

"Would you be more likely to have an anxiety attack at 20,000 feet if the passenger seated next to you was: A) An Irish nun saying the Rosary? A Mormon missionary in regulation white shirt and narrow, black tie? C) A Hari Krishna in a standard-issue saffron robe? or D) A bearded bloke of Middle Eastern complexion holding a well-thumbed Koran?"

Specifically D. A bearded bloke of Middle Eastern complexion holding a well-thumbed Koran?

This sort of crap is what people pass off as acceptable criteria for designating people terrorists. Which one is more likely then the other. If it were only that easy.

I'm going to watch the links now.

The articles you posted so far, seem to agree that there was an incident, but not necessarily on the suspicious behavior. None of the text or video, states as your post does.

"they would gather in the front and back of the airplane" They seated themselves in the front middle and back, but there is no mention of gathering as if in a group, maybe that's not what you meant though.

Also not in the post, they apparently stood and prayed outloud, which is distruptive at best, and qualifies as disorderly conduct, you don't do that on a plane, downright scary at worst in this situation, evidently with the other behaviours it was scary. I didn't read that in your post.

They also asked for seat belt extensions, though they weren't obese or large, and they didn't use them as they are used, but placed them on the floor of the plane. Weird.

Was this all a staged act? Was it a setup for a lawsuit? Was it a setup to grab media attention and uncover some of the treatment of Muslims in general that seems to fly under the radar of the media. Was this a potential terrorist attack?

When asked to leave, they declined, so they had to be removed by police.

I think most likely, this was just a few guys who don't fly frequently and who scared the hell out of other passengers, who are already frightened to fly given the terrorism climate on the planet. At least the passengers had some suspicious activity to call on, and not just merely the fact that these guys were Muslim. It's unfortunate they chose that time and place to do what they must know would scare or at the very least make other passengers uncomfortable. Prayer while standing, not in a church but in an airplane disrupts people. The fact that you are Muslim, and doing it, along with the other strange things that have been suggested, makes it frightening for Americans. Right or wrong, it does right now. But perhaps that was the whole point. To uncover our own fears and make us face it, right or wrong. These guys may also have been very well aware and conscious of their behavior and planned this, again to make us face the fear and either rationalize it or dump it.

To date, these men have not been charged with a crime, am I right about that? They didn't do anything wrong except be disruptive, and not cooperate with the flight staff, evidently two of them sat in first class. They performed suspicious actions, but they didn't break any laws, just misdemeanors at best.

As for the airlines, they did what they had to do, which is get the disruptive passengers off the plane, get the plane in the air and en route to its destination. Whether or not the crew did it's job professionally, as I believe they have, at least from what I've read/seen so far, that will be borne out in further reporting.

"they would gather in the front and back of the airplane" They seated themselves in the front middle and back, but there is no mention of gathering as if in a group, maybe that's not what you meant though.

From what I have read in other articles is that they would "group up" in two's and one set would stand at the front of the airplane, and another at the back.  That is what I meant.

The real point of this is how people like this perform this stunt in order to proclaim "racism" and try to intimidate and scare people into not reporting suspicious behavior because someone is muslim. 

 

Perfect example, and now a democrats has weighed in.

The protesters also called on Congress to pass legislation to outlaw passenger profiling. Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee, Texas Democrat, said the September 11 terrorist attacks "cannot be permitted to be used to justify racial profiling, harassment and discrimination of Muslim and Arab Americans."

One of six Muslim imams pulled from a US Airways flight in Minneapolis last night by federal authorities is affiliated with a Hamas-linked organization and acknowledged a connection to Osama bin Laden in the 1990s. Omar Shahin, who served as a spokesman for the clerics, is a representative of the Kind Hearts Organization, which had its assets frozen by the U.S. Treasury pending an investigation, notes Islam scholar Robert Spencer on his weblog JihadWatch Treasury spokesman Stuart Levey in February said KindHearts "is the progeny of Holy Land Foundation and Global Relief Foundation, which attempted to mask their support for terrorism behind the façade of charitable giving."

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53057

My God, Dan, is there any Muslim activity that you won't act as an apologist for?

Is there any Muslim you won't bash, that you won't hate? That's all i see lately, is "oh, he/she's a muslim...." Then followed by the torches and pitch forks.

is affiliated with a Hamas-linked organization and acknowledged a connection to Osama bin Laden

So? Has he done anything even remotely terrorist like?

If racism/Islamist extremistismshanism lol comments are what could be considered here's an example... "Would you be more likely to have an anxiety attack at 20,000 feet if the passenger seated next to you was: A) An Irish nun saying the Rosary? A Mormon missionary in regulation white shirt and narrow, black tie? C) A Hari Krishna in a standard-issue saffron robe? or D) A bearded bloke of Middle Eastern complexion holding a well-thumbed Koran?" Specifically D. A bearded bloke of Middle Eastern complexion holding a well-thumbed Koran? This sort of crap is what people pass off as acceptable criteria for designating people terrorists. Which one is more likely then the other. If it were only that easy. I'm going to watch the links now.

That's something I've noticed, there's an over all fear of islam. The average american seems to think that the Muslim next to them just might do something...

It's sad, and horrible. It's fucking despicable.

~L

September 11 terrorist attacks "cannot be permitted to be used to justify racial profiling, harassment and discrimination of Muslim and Arab Americans."

What an asshat. When Irish nuns and Baptist preachers start hijacking or blowing up planes they should be profiled as well. Right now it's Middle Eastern Muslims so damn right they should be profiled. Doing otherwise is just plain stupid. But then, it was said by a Leftist so...

But then, it was said by a Leftist so...

Ya know, the day the "righties" become the spurned...the "loons" etc...

I'm going to sit back, and laugh, because "O how the tables have turned..."