Liberals and religious tolerance

Published on December 8, 2005 By Island Dog In Politics

Why is it liberals tell me that mentioning Christmas in public might offend someone so I shouldn't do?

Why is it when islamists kill innocent people in the name of their religion they say we should tolerate their beliefs?

Comments (Page 2)

Island Dog

on Dec 09, 2005

Critics Aren't Keeping Quiet Over 'Silent Night' Lyrics Change School Under Fire for Having Kids Sing New Words to Classic Christmas Song By ADRIENNE MAND LEWIN Dec. 9, 2005 — - The latest salvo in the "war on Christmas" has been fired -- this time over the lyrics to the venerable Christmas carol "Silent Night."

Many who believe Christmas has been overly secularized are pouncing on a Wisconsin school that will present the tune with different words, under the title "Cold in the Night."

'Mocking' a Traditional Song? The controversy began when the father of a student at Ridgeway Elementary School in Dodgeville, Wis., was upset with the lyrics his child brought home to learn. He told the non-profit group Liberty Counsel they are: "Cold in the night, no one in sight, winter winds whirl and bite, how I wish I were happy and warm, safe with my family out of the storm."

Offended by the new words, he was unable to convince the school not to perform the song and contacted Liberty Counsel, which provides free legal assistance in religious freedom cases.

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dharmagrl

on Dec 09, 2005

I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the COnstitution, and we are perpetuating it with kids instead of correcting it. We should be teaching in school what each of these rights REALLY means.

For once, I agree with Baker. The constitution provides for freedom OF religion, not FROM.

Dr Guy

on Dec 09, 2005

For once, I agree with Baker. The constitution provides for freedom OF religion, not FROM.

Ditto!

davad70

on Dec 09, 2005

But what they may NOT do is tell me and MY family what is/isn't appropriate for us to celebrate.

Did someone come knocking on your door and forbid you to celebrate Christmas? There is a major difference between keeping religious songs, displays, etc out of public schools, govt. buildings, etc. and someone telling you it is inappropriate to celebrate Christmas.

Lee1776

on Dec 09, 2005

Ditto!

Zoomba

on Dec 09, 2005

However, there is still no actual law or rule or anything even close saying it can't be publicly displayed so long as participation isn't forced.

Dr Guy

on Dec 10, 2005

Did someone come knocking on your door and forbid you to celebrate Christmas?

As a matter of fact, yes.

Island Dog

on Dec 10, 2005

Telling my child that they can't sing "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer" in school is just about the same as coming to my door.

davad70

on Dec 10, 2005

As a matter of fact, yes.

Let me guess who it was.....Howard Dean? Barbara Boxer? John Stewart?

davad70

on Dec 10, 2005

Telling my child that they can't sing "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer" in school is just about the same as coming to my door.

Yes, you're right that is about the same as someone coming to your door and forbidding you to celebrate Christmas. Maybe you should send you child to a private school then. Then they will even be able to sing such classics as Oh Holy Night, Away In A Manger, and other Christmas songs.

bakerstreet

on Dec 10, 2005

"Yes, you're right that is about the same as someone coming to your door and forbidding you to celebrate Christmas. Maybe you should send you child to a private school then. Then they will even be able to sing such classics as Oh Holy Night, Away In A Manger, and other Christmas songs."

It's cute how faux liberals pretend to care about freedom of expression until it is something they don't want to hear. A Christian doesn't want a particular song in school, and they're up in arms because someone's morality is being imposed. Now they have their secularist morality demanding no one be able to express themselves in any way they oppose.

There's a tipper gore in all of them, if you ask me.

drmiler

on Dec 11, 2005

Yes, you're right that is about the same as someone coming to your door and forbidding you to celebrate Christmas. Maybe you should send you child to a private school then. Then they will even be able to sing such classics as Oh Holy Night, Away In A Manger, and other Christmas songs.

And just why pray tell should he have to do that?

davad70

on Dec 11, 2005

I didn't say he had to do anything. However, if the holiday song choices for his child are too limited in the public school system, then it might be good to look into a private school.

bakerstreet

on Dec 11, 2005

" I didn't say he had to do anything. However, if the holiday song choices for his child are too limited in the public school system, then it might be good to look into a private school."

But that means that public school is just private school you are required by law to pay for, and yet have no say in. If you don't like it, keep paying for it and pay extra to send your kid elsewhere. What happened to the "public" in public school, after all? Don't pretend we don't pay to send our kids there, we do. Being government run, it seems we should have MORE of a say in its function.

If it were private it would be like any other business. We could agree or take our business elsewhere. We have to pay for public school, though; we have to be a shareholder. SHouldn't we have some sort of influence?

davad70

on Dec 11, 2005

We do have some influence in how public schools are run. That's what local school boards are for. You can attend school board meetings and make your opionion known. You can also vote for members of the board that share your beliefs.

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