Is this person a liar?

Published on November 10, 2005 By Island Dog In Politics

"Saddam Hussein is an evil dictator," he answers, "who presents a serious threat to international peace and security. Under Saddam's rule, Iraq has engaged in far-reaching human rights abuses, been a state sponsor of terrorism, and has long sought to obtain and develop weapons of mass destruction."

Comments (Page 2)

Dr Guy

on Nov 10, 2005

Shi'ites and Kurds do count, you know.

Only if they are Americans - to some apparently.

davad70

on Nov 10, 2005

There were people who made these claims that are liars, including Bush & Cheney. They knew when they said this crap that it wasn't true. There's evidence of that.

If Harry Reid had information that these claims were false when he made the above statement, then he's a liar too. Do you have knowledge that Reid knew these claims were false when he made them? If so, kindly point me in that direction.

You provided the quote, what's the date that it was made?

Dr Guy

on Nov 10, 2005

My point was evil is a subjective term.

Moral Relativism. Everything is ok, since somone somewhere believes in it.

davad70

on Nov 10, 2005

Everything is ok, since somone somewhere believes in it.

Wow! I'm astounded that you believe that. In my view, that's a pretting disgusting view of things.

Dr Guy

on Nov 10, 2005

Wow! I'm astounded that you believe that. In my view, that's a pretting disgusting view of things.

I dont believe I said the words "I believe". I do believe I was just restating the highlighted quote.

DJBandit

on Nov 10, 2005

No one can say as a fact that Saddam is evil.

Actually yes they can. The 3 terms from the dictionary posted by drmiller actually make it a fact. Now that would make everyone else evil as well, but we are talking about Saddam, not everyone else so that is irrelevant. More preciseness for you.

The truth is, I can't imagen anyone not thinking of him as evil. Even those who agree with what he has done. After all you can't really say that killing innocent people for the hell of it is OK and just because someone is OK with it doesn't make it right. So in the end evil is evil no matter who agrees with it or not. Some are just more than others.

davad70

on Nov 10, 2005

Restating or reinterpreting?

COL Gene

on Nov 10, 2005

Saddam may have been evil and a dictator. He may have wanted WMD. That makes him like many other dictators in this world. As for supporting state sponsored terrorism I do not see that. he wanted and was in control of Iraq and would not share control with others. There why no terrorists operated in Iraq like the people that planned 9/11 in under Saddam He was not a danger to the US and that is why we sould not have invaded Iraq.

Dr Guy

on Nov 10, 2005

Restating or reinterpreting?

I do believe I said restating.

Dr Guy

on Nov 10, 2005

As for supporting state sponsored terrorism I do not see that.

Gee, wonder where all those $25k checks came from.

I know! The Ether Bunny!

DJBandit

on Nov 10, 2005

You are starting to get boring and repetitive. How exactly do you know this? Did you read his mind? Gotta wonder if Saddam had no terrorist connections then why are all these terrorist entering Iraq and fighting the US and Iraqi forces? As usual, all the replies you make are nothing but your thoughts and nothing to back you points up with. Give it a rest already, you already made your point that you are not happy with the war in Iraq. You already said why. Are you gonna post the same stories in every article that has the names Iraq, Saddam and the US?

DJBandit

on Nov 10, 2005

Moral Relativism. Everything is ok, since somone somewhere believes in it.

I though you were using big words to describe what he was saying. He difinitely misunderstood you Dr. Guy.

Daiwa

on Nov 10, 2005

here's a perfect example of: a. intentional distortion of the facts or b.) idiocy presented as intelligence.

I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.

How can you possibly consider this a lie, kb? First of all, it is plainly stated as a belief, not a fact, distorted or otherwise. Furthermore, many in Iraq did and still do consider themselves having been liberated from Saddam. You just don't hear that from the media because it doesn't fit the media's view of things. You are welcome to consider it meeting condition b.), but that is merely your opinion, one not well-supported by logic I'm afraid.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Leauki

on Nov 10, 2005

Saddam may have been evil and a dictator.

Some even say that he might have killed a man!

He may have wanted WMD.

Correction: he had WMDs (chemical such) in the 1980s and never proved that they were destroyed.

That makes him like many other dictators in this world.

Well, that makes it perfectly all right then, I guess.

As for supporting state sponsored terrorism I do not see that.

We know you don't see that. There are many things you don't see. That's probably why you disagree with us.

Even Saddam himself couldn't convince some that he was supporting terrorists. But he did what he could, so I can't blame him for your ignorance. He tried to tell everybody.

he wanted and was in control of Iraq and would not share control with others. There why no terrorists operated in Iraq like the people that planned 9/11 in under Saddam He was not a danger to the US and that is why we sould not have invaded Iraq.

What exactly makes him "no danger to the US"? He hatred of America, the chemical weapons he had which were still not found? His connections with terrorists?

I'd say these things did make him a danger to the US. If you disagree, tell me why he wasn't a danger.

But your ignorance of Saddam's WMDs in the 1980s and the fact that we (and the UN) don't know what happened to them and your insistence, against Saddam's own words, that Saddam didn't support terrorists are NOT good arguments.

DJBandit

on Nov 10, 2005

BTW no one has answered the question of the article. Is this person a liar? At least I didn' notice anyone answer it.

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