How to tell you are talking to a leftist.

Published on June 6, 2005 By Island Dog In Politics

I have read so many posts and blogs from the fanatical left wing people, and I have found the same rhetoric in almost all of them. So let's take this time to dismiss some of the more "popular" conspiracies, rhetoric, and lies of the lefties. If you read a post with the following comments, then you know it's pointless to argue because they will believe nothing else.

Bush "stole" the election, or he was "appointed" by the Supreme Court.

This has to be one of the most popular here on JU. Our two resident radicals love to bring this one up. As with most liberal claims, both are just false. Bush won the 2000 election fairly and legally. Even after his re-election the left still can't get over this fact. In a recount in 2000 done by the major newspapers and media here in Florida, Bush was shown to have gotten the majority of votes even if a full recount was done. Just get over it, Bush won both times.

The U.S. is now a "police state".

This is another popular one, and happens to be one of the most ridiculous. I would bet every liberal who says this has no idea what a real "police state" is like. Let's remember something. You are free to travel this country. You are free to criticize the government. You are free to post the nonsense of how much you hate on this board. If there was a "police state", none of this would be happening. I would like to tell the liberals to go visit a real "police state", that is if you can get access. If they can get there I would also encourage them to publically denounce the government and see how they are treated. Go live there for a couple of months, and then tell me if that reminds you of the U.S.

Fox News or the liberal line "Faux News".

This is the tell tale sign of arguing with a liberal. There isn't much more rage you get out of a leftie when you tell them something about Fox News. Liberals ignore the polls, public opinion, and overall proof of a liberal lean in todays media, but will argue for hours how Fox News is the "puppet of the administration". Now when you ask for proof of Fox working for the Bush administration they bring up the same points everytime. First they start with Bill O'Reilly. I watch O'Reilly and he is far from working for Bush. He is one of people in the media who is taking Bush to task on things like immigration, and not in a nice way. The next they mention Sean Hannity. Yes Hannity is part of the right, but he's also a commentator, not a news reporter. There is a difference, but that doesn't matter. Commenting and analyzing the news is not the same as reporting it.

These are the top 3 liberal lines that you will find here. Please feel free to add your own.

Comments (Page 3)

gothcartman

on Jun 08, 2005

News flash: many candidates ALREADY ignore the small states precisely BECAUSE of the electoral college. In 1992 (being young and foolish), I wanted to work on the Clinton campaign in Oklahoma. Long story short, there WAS no Clinton campaign in Oklahoma; the dems didn't want to even try for those votes. There are liberal states that the Republicans likewise ignore.

thank you for supporting my point. what follows is not to argue you but to extend my point.
the electoral college allows one vote to states of the smallest populations. that makes it proportional. if politicians say "Fuck Alaska, Wyoming, and Rhode Island" with the electoral college, they will say the same assuming popular vote replaces it

gothcartman

on Jun 08, 2005

--Our country (USA) was founded by religous (don't freak out,its just a word) followers,christian,catholic,whatever, they believed in a faith.....namely christianity...it is engrained in our history and culture, no one realizes that...

true, but the principles it was founded on are what to keep in mind, because thats what's important. This country wasnt fouded on christianity, it was founded on freedom of religion. thats one of the top reasons people were fleeing England - religious persecution. So what the people who founded this country were religious? They believed in the free exercise thereof so it doesnt matter what religion is and or was the most common in America.

Moderateman

on Jun 08, 2005

They believed in the free exercise thereof so it doesnt matter what religion is and or was the most common in America.

exactly, and still do, the freedom to worship or not worship as you choose.

DiseasedHumanity

on Jun 08, 2005

exactly, and still do, the freedom to worship or not worship as you choose

But not the freedom to impose that on other people.

Cheers, Pads

Island Dog

on Jun 08, 2005

But not the freedom to impose that on other people.

Who and what are these "people" imposing? The only time a religion forces anything on you is when they kill you if you don't share their religion. Now we only know of one religion who is doing that now, and that happens to be the one the left tolerates the most.

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on Jun 08, 2005

Hell people, why dont all of those people that get pissed when the hear of religion being "shoved" down throats go plug their ears,i believe its 95%of the world is religious (UH-OH) better hurry,i mean serioously,just because others want a religious thing to be included in an activity (a prayer, praying around a flag pole) its not hurting you, they arn't shoving it down your throat,they are engaging in the free exercise thereof (of religion),its the assholes who jump at any mention of religion that are fucking things up,if you don't like it,leave...otherwise,shut up...have a nice day

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on Jun 08, 2005

In fact, why don't we just get rid of freedom,hmmm?
These people that cry out about religion shoved down their throats don't care about freedom, or rights for people. Only thiers...and maybe others like them...

gothcartman

on Jun 08, 2005

and that happens to be the one the left tolerates the most.

Stop being so dramatic. It would just as fair to say that the right tolerates it the least and tolerates christianity the most.

Island Dog

on Jun 08, 2005

Stop being so dramatic. It would just as fair to say that the right tolerates it the least and tolerates christianity the most

It's not being dramatic. Christianity is not the religion killing people because they are "infidels". I can show many examples of how liberal groups attack Christianity, but "tolerate" islam.

zinkadoodle

on Jun 08, 2005

WAR FOR OIL: No matter how much evidence is presented to the contrary,

What evidence to the contrary? All I hear and read is deny, deny, deny with absolutely no evidence at all. However, the fact remains that Iraq has oil. The US wanted it. They drummed up this evidence about WMD's, which turned out to be false, and actually a full-blown lie, then backtracked and said that the reason for war was that Saddam was a bad guy. Well, there are lots of bad guys out there. None had oil that would have been "easy" to take, except Iraq.

If I provide links, all you will do is bash my links, so I'm not going to bother, unless you ask. I'm not going to waste my time on people who refuse to acknowledge that maybe, maybe maybe the bush dynasty made a humongous mistake. And, they make mistakes after mistakes after mistakes, which you people refuse to acknowledge. This has got to be the mostest, bestest, bushie supporters club I have ever encountered. Pretty stunningly and absurdly amazing.

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on Jun 08, 2005

that the reason for war was that Saddam was a bad guy.

During bush's SOU speech beforewe invaded iraq, he mentioned reasons why, and WMD, bad guy, etc... are just a few...i wish people would remember that...

zinkadoodle

on Jun 08, 2005

I wish people would remember that bush lied about the WMD's, that it was all over the internet that the Niger documents were forgeries before we invaded Iraq, and therefore the bushies knew it was a lie, but advanced the lie anyway.

I wish people would remember that we armed saddam during the Iran/Iraq war because he was our buddy. I wish people would remember that Cheney was shaking saddam's hand a few years before we invaded.

I wish people would remember that saddam is not the only baddy on the block, nor was he the most dangerous.

I wish people would remember that during the SOU speech, his #1 reason for invading iraq was to prevent a "mushroom cloud", because he had WMD's.

I wish people would remember the 1600 American lives that were lost for nothing.

I wish people would remember the thousands upon thousands of iraqis killed because of our invasion to take out ONE man.

Lots of you here refuse to remember. But, it will be remembered. And, you will be defending your asses, because that's all the credibility you'll have left.

I will remember all the liars, cheaters, thieves, corporate welfare, ruined environment, growing deficits, and the joeuser band of amnesiacs.

drmiler

on Jun 09, 2005

I will remember all the liars, cheaters, thieves, corporate welfare, ruined environment, growing deficits, and the joeuser band of amnesiacs.

You do just that, and we'll remember the "idiots" fromn the other side!

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on Jun 09, 2005

I wish people would remember that saddam is not the only baddy on the block,

--Thats one less, bush knew we couldn't handle NK or Iran,both would be suicide...thats why they are handled diplomatically...

I wish people would remember that during the SOU speech, his #1 reason for invading iraq was to prevent a "mushroom cloud", because he had WMD's

--True,but, he had others, the left's (not saying all leftwingers) rallying cry has been the "fact" that bushes "only" reason was WMD's...BULLSHIT....

I wish people would remember the thousands upon thousands of iraqis killed because of our invasion to take out ONE man

--And thousands upon thousands of iraqi's were killed by that one man...now...no more...

I wish people would remember the 1600 American lives that were lost for nothing

--One question; "Do you believe in freedom for others?" Should we be the only ones that have democratically elected gov'ts,or free speech...?

Lots of you here refuse to remember. But, it will be remembered. And, you will be defending your asses, because that's all the credibility you'll have left

--I remember, its your side that has ran out of reasons...sure, bush has his faults...who doesn't...i am glad we went into iraq,i am sure that those 1600 who died realized what they were doing...or else they wouldn't have joined...

I will remember all the liars, cheaters, thieves, corporate welfare, ruined environment, growing deficits, and the joeuser band of amnesiacs

--Proof? Please provide a link...

--Ironically,SAS,French Intellegence,CIA, and the German and Russian intellegence (which we got most of our "lies" from) where all wrong...

--Most of your stuff here is easily refutable...so i can do this all week long...please...give me another excuse...oh, and have a nice day!

drmiler

on Jun 09, 2005

--Ironically,SAS,French Intellegence,CIA, and the German and Russian intellegence (which we got most of our "lies" from) where all wrong...

Add the greeks, the Italians and the egyptians to that list! Oops forgot one. British intelligence.

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