I don't quite get what is missing from not being able to transfer keys over to Steam? I can launch Sins as a non-Steam game and access the Steam overlay, screenshots show up in the library, just like actual Steam games.

Is the problem the inability to download Sins via Steam?

Also: Very happy to see this. I have no intention of purchasing further games via GameStop (Impulse) for various reasons, and I am glad Stardock games will be available through Steam.

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Can I install the product on more than one PC?

This varies by publisher and product. Some products can be installed on only one PC while others can be installed on an unlimited number of PCs. See specific product pages for installation/activation limits.

I don't see the problem here. Sins has an unlimited number of installation so what's everybody complaining about? I'm staying with impulse. The one i know and have gotten use to. Ill play all my other shooters on steam.

Try deleting that .bin file and run Sins again.  Go through the activation process again, it may just have not worked the first time.  If you still have trouble, send us an email with the above, and everything you've tried at support@stardock.com and we'll try to figure out what's happening.

Hi there!

Thought I should add my two cents to the discussion. A friend of mine and I like to play Sins a lot. We both bought the game retail (Sins Trinity edition, 29 € at that time) and registered at Impulse. Personally I have no problems with that platform, no matter the owner, as long as I can update and play my games.I won't pay again just to get the same game on steam either. I do understand the feeling of people who want to switch platforms, though. I have four different platforms for my games as well, all games that are available on steam as well (most of them force me to their platforms because they were bought retail). They all want to start with my computer clogging up my system, which is why I deactivated autostart on most of them. Whenever I want to play the few games registered on another platform I have to start up that platform manually, even though I see the very same games available on steam. It's just a tad annoying. Luckily Sins doesn't need Impulse/Gamestop to start, on the other hand I usually miss the updates thanks to that.

Personally I would suggest that any player prepurchasing Rebellion on Steam gets a copy of Sins Trinity. It's not an unusual promotion and those who want to switch could get their copy ported this way. Not the ideal solution, but this way seems more reasonable to me than fumbling around with the gamestop licenses...

THIS .. is a great idea .. games on Steam have done this a ton ... buy the new game and get the old game free ... It's a great promotion and I think will get a LOT of us who have Sins already via Impulse to buy Rebellion ... allowing us to get a Steam copy of Sins for "free".

Rebellion is not for pre-order on Steam, only on the Stardock store.

https://www.sinsofasolarempire.com/store

Out of curiosity, if I purchase Rebellion through the Stardock store do I get to associate it with either Steam or Impulse? If I own Trinity on either Steam or Impulse but no physical copy, Rebellion will still work fine? Just want to be clear as to how it will work.

There's no information right now about Rebellion aside that the pre-order is only via the Stardock store.  There's no association with Rebellion with Steam or Impulse at this time, we are focused on our store right now.

Rebellion is also a stand-alone expansion, so you don't need any previous Sins games to enjoy it.

Let me remind you that companies don't very often get the same deals as others. Just because Company A agrees to something fully and everything goes one way, Company B might have a slight issue with something else and problems thus ensue.  Here is the thing.  Stardock, while owning impuse said they would never sell on steam.  This we all know.  They've now sold it to gamestop and thus are no longer in competition with steam and have made arrangements to sell their games.  Again, this we all know.  The details of that arrangement we do not know.  The details of the sale to gamestop, we do not know.  It's very possible that part of the deal to gamestop was that all current keys stay exclusive to them, thus retaining the customers along with the sale.  It makes sense as part of the deal does it not?  This would clearly block stardock from giving us all new keys to switch to steam should we want to go that route.  BUT!  WE DO NOT KNOW.  And that is my point.

I don't have to offer evidence, I'm not the accuser.  I'm the one asking for evidence and proof.  I'm just asking where he get's his information from that he's absolutely confident that its Stardock screwing everyone and not, as I presented, possibly a previous deal with another company that's preventing them.  I've delivered reasonable doubt for you to see even though I don't have to.  So I'll ask again, how is it you know its Stardock's fault?

Tridus...  Please tell me you're not one of those complete and total idiots who when presented with the argument if God exists and is asked to prove that he does, your answer back is prove that he doesn't...  Its just plain stupid.  Don't be like that.  Because...  That's what you just did by stepping in.  I have faith that people here really aren't that dumb.  Please don't prove me wrong.

This is you making assumptions like that other guy is about the deal in place.  Only this time, I actually do know the details because I am intimate with them.  Your assumption is incorrect.  I know far more people who have never even registered on the forums, much less have any reason to.  They play the games and use the software, they don't care about your banter or anyone else's.  Some play Sins, some play Elemental, some GalCiv2, some only use the WinCustomize stuff, some use a mixture of all of them.  I bought Sins because I was pointed to the game by someone else who used Stardock's software and thought I'd be interested in it.  If I wasn't already aware of it when I saw the box on Best Buy's shelf, I would have never bought it.  There were plenty of other more appealing games out at the time.  So when I say I know a lot of people who are happy to see SDC is coming back (I've never used it, I got here after Impulse, but I've only heard good things) so they can ditch GameStop and that they refuse to go to Steam just like me, yes, I am referring to forum people that I've had the pleasure of getting to know over the past few years, but I'm also referring to people I know personally who do not use the forums who are a part of Stardock's wider world of customers.  Don't make stupid assumptions like that.  None of us, will ever go to steam.  All of us are waiting to ditch GameStop.  I'm not testifying to the entirety of the customer base, just to whom I know.  Read it again on the last page.  You will see that.  Here, let me quote it for you to help you out, because I'm a nice guy like that.

You see that part at the beginning where I said everyone I know?  Yeah that part.  That's not edited, go look for yourself if you want proof.  That nullifies your assumption right there before you even had it.  If Lothrik wants to come back and dispute that, its his choice.  I'd probably concede since I made a blind assumption of my own right there.  But that's for him to do, not you.  Come back with a reasonable argument if you want to continue this.  For now, I'll patiently wait for Lothrik's proof of his personal involvement, and thus personal knowledge to the details of the deal with steam so that he can come here and confidently put Stardock on blast for it.

Thank you and have a nice day.

Sorry, if it sounds like I'm being a jerk... but this *does* beg the question.  Why would I buy a game from your store when you just sold your LAST store to GameStop?  The last thing I want is for another batch of my games to end up in the clutches of that slimy organization.

I'm happy to support Stardock's *GAMES*.  But I won't purchase a digitally distributed game directly from you again.  Personally, I'd gladly buy this from Steam, Green Man Gaming, GoG.com, or Amazon.

This store is only going to sell Stardock products, unlike Impulse, which was meant to be a full fledged digital distribution platform. Selling it would be like Apple selling the Apple Store to Microsoft, which makes sense for neither the seller nor the buyer.

Steam? Excellent. Now I can Rebellion without feeling tremors of impending doom! Love Steam. Never any problems.

GoaFan77 pretty much nailed it.  Stardock was the original developers who started distribution of games/software via digital distribution.  That started with Stardock Central, which is making a comeback of sorts soon.

SDC and the Stardock store are only selling and distributing Stardock products whether it's games like Sins, or apps like Object Desktop.  

Does that kinda answer your question?

Just wanted to post this again so people see it.

There's no information right now about Rebellion aside that the pre-order is only via the Stardock store.  There's no association with Rebellion with Steam or Impulse at this time, we are focused on our store right now.

Thanks for the news Island Dog! It's much appreciated!

I do find it rather funny and amusing on the new stance with sharing Rebellion keys with Steam.

Considering this gem of a thread: https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/344467

Where Frogboy was pitching how awesome it would be for digital games to be "vendor neutral" to put the power back into the hands of the players and prevent scenarios where a vendor goes out of business, since the player could just download from another platform. Of course, back then he wanted other publishers to share their keys with Impulse, but now that it comes to sharing SD keys with Steam, the tune is reversed

Food for thought.