Just added my overclock - I usually have that off cause the pc acts like a mini fan heater... - i7 920 @ 3.67Ghz, mem @ 1451Ghz with 2 x 4890s in crossfire, and...

... 228.4 fps

Adequate

This lovely topic takes 'e-peen' to a whole new level...

And with that said... my gpu is longer then all of yours!

I on the other hand dont mind if i get a steady 30fps. As long as its steady. Im not a user who cares if I get 100 more fps then what my eye can ever see. lol

That 106fps average had a minimum around 70fps so there was/is sufficient headroom to make staggering 'unlikely'.

Same benchmark test on  supposedly one of the fastest/best AGP cards released showed an average of 21.9fps at 1280x1024 32bit DX10 with a minimum around 10fps maybe. [both resolutions were native to their respective monitors].

I was running Bioshock with FRAPS up, DX10 everything max at my monitor's native 1440x900 clamped at 60FPS due to v-sync. At one point it dropped down to the mid 40s for a few seconds and I would of never knew if it I hadn't seen the counter. Maybe my eyes are just getting old, but unless I get a huge dip in something it just doesn't seem noticable. Think I'd rather have a game using enough of my stuff to keep a smooth 45-60FPS rather than have a whole bunch of unused potential I paid for just sitting there. Of course as time goes on that potential will get used for those cards that can do 100+FPS now, but they will also be a lot cheaper by then .

FRAPS used to chew up my framerate like baby food until I got my new laptop.

I have the 5750 model and found that you can only use the HDMI slot in certain configs, which does not include dual DVI.  In a dual DVI config, you'll need to have an active DP adapter (or a monitor with a native DP connection).  The adapter runs about $100 and can be found on Amazon.com.  (Found all of this out the hard way after purchase.) 

Grab any game that runs above 60FPS at all times, play it with vsync on and off. If you can actually SEE the difference, you'll probably note that vsync off seems more jerky (screen tearing), even if it's a higher framerate.

With a refreshrate of 60Hz on the monitors you still have only 60FPS visible regardless of how fast the graphicscards renders.

In games where reaction time is significant you do get slightly better responsetime with framerates higher than 60 though, simply because the images actually displayed will be at most 1/120th of a second old at 120FPS while at 60FPS it'll be 1/60th. It may seem like a very short time, but it makes a difference (it's basically an 8ms reduction in latency (ping)). You can't actually see this difference, but it'll make the game feel more responsive.

5870 is overkill right now. I got 4870 and run latests games (Mass efect 2 bioshock 2 Demigod ) at 1650x1050 with full details (AA, deep of field etc etc maxed) without dropping below 40 fps. The only problem i had was Anno Dawn of discovery.

Unless you want to run 2 games at same time its really no point to buy it now (when the price is so freakin high). Wait fev months till Nvida release cunter product and when price war starts then u can get this card for 40% of its original price.

Lol at 100+ fps when you eye can only catch 26-30 fps.

On other note its funny that you need to spent over 2500$ for pc parts to get the same gaming expierience as you would get from 700-500$ PS3. Not to mention you dont need to worry about latest drives, dirext updates or security softwares like tages or securerom that can cause your computer to crash or make it impossible to use compies of your disks (which you have right to make!!!).

You just simply put the blueray disc in and play at the best possible settings. Not to mention that most new games are designed for either ps3 or xbox360 and pc users get lousy ports (GTA 4 is the best example here, New AvP looks like next example of it).

The only reason I stick with PC games is beacuse i like RTS and shooters and i just cant imagine playing it on joystick. Also thank to pirates and torrents, prices of PC tiltles are more competive then PS3 games (many developers decides to drop prices of their products to figh piratede copies).

Playing any online first person shooter at 30 FPS will give you a significant disadvantage against a player who plays at 120FPS. Doesn't matter if you can actually see the difference or not. At 30fps it takes 33.4ms to render a screen, during that time a lot of things happen regarding to position of the enemies. Let's say you have a 100ms ping response to the server, which is fairly good, that makes you end up with 30% more lag only because of your graphics card. It may not sound like too much, but at "pro" level it makes a HUGE difference. At 100FPS there's only a 10ms lag caused by the rendering, which should be quite close to negligible.

That should end this discussion, because there's really no opposing this basic fact. Higher FPS will affect your gameplay. Seeing the difference or not is completely irrelevant.

I seriously doubt that anyone would gain anything from going higher than 120FPS though (120FPS seems ideal to me, because it would be nicely synced with a 60Hz screen refresh rate).

So... 60ms lag. That is not even 1/100 of second. I bet pro like you can cast 5 pots and 3 fireballs in Wow or other Pro game .

What else do you recomend?? Should I cut my keyboard and monitor  cable to 100 mm so it will have better response time? that will give another 1/100 second advantage againts those pros. And maybe i should sit closer to monitor so i will see the action faster again.

I also heard that when you graphic card can render over 500 fps you can actually see what other players do before they even decide to do it. Its so worth it to get latest 5870 x2 and put them in 4x SLI so i will get 8 gpu working same time.

Back to original post. I really think it is no point to get the 'latest' graphic cards when there is no games to fully utilize its power and potential.

It's best to have a handle on maths when attempting to make a point.  60milliseconds is 60 one-thousandths of a second.

Divide 60 by 1000 and you get.....?  

Good question.

Anyway, I've been looking forward to upgrading for quite a while, but I've recently come across reports from a sizeable number of people whose 5xxx cards suffer from the "gray screen crash" issue which still hasn't been resolved. I'll probably wait a bit longer and see how the situation unfolds. 

Jafo

Thanks for correcting me. If only stardock team was soo good in math when it comes to demigod lua (minons sumoned with half hp for example). Thanks mate great work