They did that in Florida in 2k.  As we saw, the democrats failed miserably.  But it was their own test.

I guess this proves my "ignorant vote" theory where Obama won, not because he was the better candidate, but because of ignorance by the average American.

Well duh....Un informed and not in touch... only to what the media feeds you

I believe it is more of an indictment of the Media and its failure to inform the voters.

As for Obama voters, I would guess a large portion of them were voting for 'more stuff for me' so being intelligently informed of the issues didn't come into play, particularly when they weren't getting anything substantial from the media.

Sadly you are right on with this. I n fact went around with this lady on another MB that saw nothing wrong with the thinking. I mean as she said "whats wrong with helping other out"

The problem is... when you are forced to help someone out. In a way that is what "spreading the wealth" is.

I say screw em all. Ill still stick to my thinking and do my little that I do to be a productive memeber in society. While all these others are sitting around doing nothing and living off the rich.... let em... for when it does all hit the fan... I for one will be a better person than them and actually feel good about myself... and will be looked at as a better person overall .

It does when you get that dripping condescending sneer from some pencil head that thinks they are better because they care.  Now we have proof they are just idiots.

This is the funniest bit.. change change change they chant... must break the conservative power... but the democrats were the ones in power.

I think that, rather than ignorance, current events and  the social class of the voters played a large part in deciding the election. In my opinion, after reading a few anecdotal responses off reason.com, many of the people who voted for Obama did so in order to "punish the Republican party."In light of current events, an unpopular war, an economic crisis, and a president perceived to be unintelligent, I think people were just sick and tired of the old and conservative. They wanted change; they wanted change that McCain just could not promise in the same way that a Black liberal could. 

And on top of that, they wanted equality and social justice. Poorer people realized that Obama would give them more buying power. But while historically the lower income brackets have voted predominantly democratic (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/8/163826/189/342/657659), this past election more young people voted than in any recent past election. And young people are concerned with their social future. Also, Obama struck chords with the African-American and Latino populations, who saw the candidate as a way to make America more racially democratic, as well as economically.

So, while it looks nice to point out that Democratic voters know little about the intricate details of this past election's candidates, in reality, it was not their ignorance, but the incompetence of the current Republican administration and the hope of a more equal society in the future that lead these people to vote how they did. I would think that many Republican voters know just as little about these facts and even the facts regarding their own candidates. That's just the educational reality of today, but it is one that Obama might contribute to improving. Who knows?

Well, I attribute it to both. Their ignorance led them to believe that an incompetent black man can repair what an incompetent white man broke.

Actually, I see it as the hope for a less equal society that lead those people to vote as they did.

They don't want equality because equality is bad for the weak. They want entitlements.

_Equality_ is when you and I have equal rights and duties. But ask an Obama supporter if he believes that a rich man should have the same rights and duties as a poor man, and you'll see how far the equality goes.

True.  Only an Orwellian view can see it as more equal.  Obama has stated that he sees nothing wrong with slavery, as long as the right people are enslaved.

They want buying power for the work they put into the nation, and they want work that they can put into the nation. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/ (This is the official economic platform from obama's site. Feel free to compare it with McCain's http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/jobsforamerica/)

Orwellian? I am not talking about communism. Did you know that our country is neither a democracy nor capitalist? We are a constitutional republic, and we have a mixed economy (the government interferes with business). True capitalism is economic anarchy! It works well in developing countries, but nowhere else really. 

I highly doubt this.

I think you were getting really close to the issue.  It's not that they are sick and tired of the old and conservative it is that they are sick and tired of those saying they are conservative when in fact they are not. 

Many are torqued about the economy, fed gov't spending like drunken sailors, no body adhering to their word.

Hannity had an interesting poll about why they voted for Obama.  Main reason was the conservatives weren't being conservative.  With this said, I'm gonna go with the notion that people would rather put the other and oppose him and congress every step of the way knowing who they are to battle with the hopes that conservatives will come back to being um, conservative.

McCain showed little to no conservative values.

That's my take.

Doc, you gotta quote?

Neither was I.  Do you know what Orwellian is?  Communism had some of it, but it was not totally orwellian.

Ok, what do you call it when one person is forced to work - for no compensation - for another?

See above.

ah slavery through socialistic oppression. 

Me understands!