I wonder why the third geneva convention exists if POW have no rights.

http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm 

The whole reason to have those "unlawful combatants" is to distinguish "lawful" from "unlawful" combatants. "unlawful combatants" are still under the protection of the 4th geneva convention when some conditions are fulfilled. The Geneva Convention also says that a potentially "unlawful combatant" must be treated as POW as long as a qualified tribunal didn't judge on his case, while in guantanamo they were treated as "unlawful combatants" before a tribunal judged on them.

If this is the way people prefer it in the USA its their right to do, but they should officially say that the convention is void then.

Which says nothing about my point, there are not aborted fetuses used, they were never inside a woman, it is a zygote created in a lab and taken apart before it can form a fetus. However, from a biologists perspective I would say that this is the point of origin, that is, a person begins existing then... It is just a very fragile point of origin with massive death counts, there are the sperm and egg cells that die in the billions, but then when you do have a fertalized egg, it often fails and dies without the parent even noticing a potential pregnancy. and there are no souls, for anyone (again from a biological standpoint); but it is certainly the moment life begins for a person.

Let me put it this way, if you mix human and ape sperm/eggs then you also get a zygote, it dies shortly afterwards because it is too unstable to survive due to incompatible DNA, but a zygote forms (a few species that are really close to us have a zygote that can live for a few weeks). Does that mean that every instance of beastiality results in a living half human with a soul? Actually from a religious standpoint it makes more sense that God would only place a soul in a baby that is going to be carried to term. Much less not place a soul into a lab zygote (or individual sperm and egg cells)

In regards to their usefulness though, embryonic stem cells are actually easier to produce then adult stem cells, because you just need to take apart a zygote, and we do not yet fully know how to transform an adult cell back into a stem cell. This means that for the moment, ESC are more suited for research and for medicinal use. (despite having to use immune supressors with them)

It is just that in the future it is better to use ASC instead to eliminate the need and dangers of rejection, and the dangers of the immune suppressors taken to reduce rejection rates (causing other risks and complications.

Regardless, the moral issue is one I was not trying to address, but pointing out it has nothing to do with abortion.

Please reread my response.  POWS have rights.  No where did I state otherwise.

RIght - which have not been fulfilled. I am glad you agree.  And you must also agree (since you seem to have actually read the document) that what Obama is proposing doing is illegal based upon a ratified treaty the US is a signatory to.

what illigal thing is he proposing?

Really? How many times have you visited China? I'm not disagreeing with your statement mind  you, there is no place like home here in the US. I do feel that using China is a bad example I've been there a few times and it is very much like walking down a street in the US, capitalism is everywhere. Sure they don't vote or have much of a say in government affairs, but many there are not bothered by that in the least. They have a middle class, my wife (a Chinese national from PRC) falls into that category. She even owns a condo. People do tend to stare at westerners with curiosity, especially in small towns, but are generally friendly.

Being a former cold warrior, I don't have much love for communism, but I'll tell you of all the places that felt like what you might have seen in pre-1980's spy movies, was Croatia. I was there about 8 years after their independence. From the laminate wood seats on the buses, to the poor selection in shops, and stoic architecture, you'd think you were in the USSR during the 60's. The people were very friendly though and I'm sure some things have changed since then. BTW Both China (not the big cities) and Croatia are great places to vacation, very inexpensive.

we hear about human rights violations in china all the time, of course, recently those have been happening alot in the USA and the other so called "free democracies".

Those violations differ only in their excuse...

In china, russia and similar ones: for the motherland, for duty, for the good of all, etc.

In the "free world": For the children, In the interest of national security, only criminals would oppose that.