I lived in the Netherlands on an exchange student program in college.  It was AWESOME.  Very nice people.

I'm totally staying out of the Australia sub-thread.  All the Aussies I know are good friends in the movie biz or VERY lovely young ladies. 

'nigh neverending' - not bad.  You may have a shot at Poetry Secretary.

But I'm still a little worried about your reading comprehension.

One day, you will know my poetry. 

It's not the same sort of immigrant as they were back then...those people were proud and greatful to come here...learn the language...and worked their asses off to actually earn a living and contribute...not this new class of immigrant that wants everything for free while they run around with extremely bad attitudes thinking we owe them something. And raise generations of kids on welfare and don't even attempt to learn our language or get a job. Maybe not where you live...but they do here. I was born and raised here....so I'm well aware that we are all born from immigrants. It's just that the class of immigrants has changed for the worse and the doors have been widened way to much. How about we just knock down the walls completely? And I'm sorry...but it's NOT the 1 America "I" remember.

Maybe...maybe not...time will tell...the kettle is already starting to boil with this last election. I'd like to think not....but the face of this country is changing more and more each day...and not in good ways. And thats not ridiculous....thats a fact.

Good examples! And I wasn't suggesting we had daily riots. And I didn't say we would...I said I wouldn't be surprised. Where I live you used to be able to walk through town without so much as the slightest thought you could get shot or robbed...those days are long gone...I won't even drive through town anymore. All anyone has to do is yell police brutality around here after knowningly breaking the law and stores and homes are destroyed or someone gets shot. I don't know where you get fearmongering out of that?

k10w3 yeah, I think its ok for me and my family to be safe and fed, Ive worked for that, I also give to charities that help kids who aren't fed.

Please don't quote me if your going to spout freakin garbage in reply.

If this thread had been a breath of fresh air to you, you have my pity.

What the hell, let's go for 1k.

You have to be one of the most ignorant people to post in this topic so far. And for the record, try comparing Bush to something that actually sucks, yet again your ignorance is shown. I'm almost sympathetic to you.

I honestly feel sorry for some of these people. The amount of utter ignorance is appalling.

And vStyler, how dare you want to feed your own family and not my family as well! I am truly sickened by this attitude!

Uhm, no?

Well, I'd say the air just went a little sour for me.  I'm done.

All immigrants are proud and GRATEFUL to come here.  It's why they do it.  Some, like myself, take years as a legal immigrant to finally get to proudly take the citizenship test. 

And they all learn the language, not often in the first generation, but by the second.  By the third generation, they are part of the American tableau. 

So WHICH immigrants are the problem then?  Are you saying all the Asian ones?  You know the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese aren't hard working?  I guess they are getting those good grades and engineering degrees by osmosis...

Or are you claiming the Latino population is the problem?  Which would that be, the Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, Brazilians, etc?

Or maybe it's the African-Americans?  And which would those be?  The ones we brought here against their will as slaves, or the ones who saved decades of wages just to give their children a chance at the American Dream?

Your words could have been cut and pasted right out of the 18th and 19th century bigots who said the same thing about the Irish, Polish, German, etc. immigrants.

It was as ignorant and ill-informed then as it is now.

Guess what?  YOU don't get to define what an American is.  Our Constitution does. 

Our country ALWAYS changes.  It adapts.  It's WHY our Constitution is so brilliantly constructed with checks and balances meant to correct with the changing times while still maintaining core universal truths and human rights.

All you are really saying is that you feel the country is changing in a way that is DIFFERENT than the way you'd like it to.

And as for me, I think it's finally changing in a way that I am very proud of. 

Actually, you seem to be regurgitating nothing but insults with no opinions supported by facts whatsoever.  You are a late comer to this thread, but if you scroll back, you'll find plenty of facts with citations to challenge.

Otherwise, I have to to take your posts as simple, childish flame bait.  Which means I will get neither offended, nor leave this thread.

Clearly, your debate skills are formidable! 

Really? That's ironic, from where im standing you seem to be doing that exact thing.

Sounds like someone need's to read up a bit more, I've got a post right on the first page. If anything you are the late comer. Not that it really matters, right?

I'm not trying to flaim bait anyone, and if I was you'd be called something far more insulting when compared to Ignorant. I mean.. comparing an operating system to a President? I have an idea, im going to compare Obama to Homeland Security. Incase you don't get that, I'm calling him a joke.

Short, simple and right to the point. Whats not to like? Or perhaps you just aren't used to those type of answers. Maybe I should have responded to it with an indirect question and or answer of my own, would that be more to your liking?

And you're right back to "I'm rubber and you're glue."  Again.

I guess the joke was over your head.  To make it REALLY simple, I was pointing out that 64 bit operating systems can address BIGGER NUMBERS, more memory, etc.   So a 32 bit OS couldn't count high enough to keep track of Bush's gaffes.  I hope you understand it now, though I assume the humorous moment is now lost.

So, do you have ANY point to make on any of these topics?  I am calling you out on this, because I have already proven that I am actively participating in the debate, not just hurling childish insults.  I continue to discuss these topics in the many sub threads here, but all you seem to be doing is the old "I know you are but what am I?" and "I'm rubber and you're glue." 

Calling someone ignorant and then not even participating in the discussion would indicate you actually don't have anything particularly useful to say.  Feel free to cogently address, with supporting facts, any of the other topics being discussed in this thread.

If you can, of course.  Otherwise, you're just trolling or cheerleading, neither of which are actually contributing.

PS 'Tude does not equal intellect.  Just an FYI there.