Not in so many words , biut this whole thread has been a troll to flush out all us evil liberals.

Aside from being a hypocrite , a liar ... ?

This thread would have been locked a long time ago except that it was started by ID.  That's why it hasn't been locked.

That's your opinion about why it hasn't been locked.  This was my blog post on JU, and for over 900 posts it has been fairly civil.  It's interesting how the left claims the thread should be locked and then in different threads make comments that we lock threads.

I think it was fine to start out with, but some people can't understand the fact that others may have different beliefs than they do. And rather than agreeing to disagree people feel the need to sink into a child like attitude and start throwing a fit. And no, I don't direct that at you and you alone.

I do agree with what ID said above as well. The hypocrisy is pretty pathetic. You can't have it both ways.

Now THAT truly shows the "American way" doesn't it? YOU'RE safe, YOU'RE kids are safe, and YOU/YOURS aren't starving...but it's okay for OTHER people/families to be starving and unsafe.

MY kid was over in Iraq fighting until April, and I did not feel so very safe then, my friend. My doctor had to put me on some pretty powerful medication until his tour was over, and I'd STILL feel "unsafe" what with the way the stop loss program works, but his tour of duty messed his skeletal system up enough that he's on the list just waiting for medical discharges, while the rest of his troup is preparing to deploy again.

I find it interesting what different people define as "safe."  Are "we" safe as long as the majority of us are just one paycheck away from bankruptcy?  Are we "safe" when those of us who are privileged enough to have health care can't afford the copays and deductibles so we don't get our necessary health maintenance?  (and that's IF we're privileged to have health care...a lot of us DON'T).  So there you are, feeling safe and nourished in your home, and that's because you're biggest fear was foreign terrorists, when the next typhoid Mary may be walking around, uninsured, unvaccinated, just waiting to cough on you're kids in their class room.

As for George Bush, I wouldn't mind sitting down and having a beer with him either...but I wouldn't want ANY of my drinking buddies to become president of the country!  I want somebody whose intelligence intimidates me to be in charge of my country...I want somebody who I respect and fear, not someone I LIKE!  I want someone who seems like the type who plays chess, not clears brush.

Of course, I don't know about you but when I get MY paycheck I don't expect it to also be YOURS. Amirite?

The Palin thread got locked.  I realize such choices are subjective and there has been degrees of both tolerance and civility in this thread and lot's of activity but.... there's been plenty of senseless actions as well in this thread.  I also think if one of the ordinary members had started this thread it would have very likely been locked.  My subjective evaluation of it.

The constitution provides that you have the fredom of life, liberty and the pursuit of hapiness.  Everything else is up to you.

I totally agree with you on this, Island Dog, it HAS been fairly civil (and I'm leftist...well, that's what I claim, in reality I'm an anarchist, but that's because I work from home and only leave the house when most people are sleeping or working).

I have a couple of boards I post at that are run by people in my profession (medical transcription), and the politics board they has deteriorated into nothing but name calling and partisan crap talking of the other posters.  This thread has been a breath of fresh air for me.

You wouldn't WANT it to be mine, and right now I'd fair much better if I was technically in poverty.  Working poor really sucks.

Not to get all Buddhist on you here, Zubaz, but doesn't living in a neighborhood with a guy down the block who made poor choices and can't pay his/her bills spill over into your yard?  When that neighbor gets hungry enough, don't you think he's going to think about busting into your place and liberating you from some of your worldly goods that can be pawned so he can get caught up on some of those bills, and doesn't that element of crime bring down your property value?

I know what the constitution says, and I know that our country has run on a capitalistic form of government now for that past 230+ years now, but maybe we've out-grown that model?

It's these sort of statements which you have repeated on numerous occassions to the drumbeat of if there's any negativity it's only from the left which demonstrate you show bias.

I think this post and there were others show clearly your contention is tainted with bias ID.  Please notice this item was directed at me.  And, in addition to being inflammatory on its own, it also suggests that I am a racist since I had been tagged as a liberal and I had stated my support for Obama. This item was ignored by you and other moderators.

This sort of item would have gotten this thread locked if it were directed at Palin and Palin supporters.  I rest my case.

 I kind of figured you would.  I assume most of us don't have a problem with sharing our surplus, we just don't want anyone taking from what we consider our own needs.  And here's where I see the problem of the Republican vision of things...continually "creating wealth" for ourselves, "trying to keep your hands off of my stack" as Pink Floyd sang, the definition of what constitutes surplus and what constitutes necessity gets skewed.