me too.....

From his resume.....damn......I ccan't believe he's still a Senatore with a 2% success rate......

• Number of sponsored bills: 70
• Number of sponsored bills passed: 2

• Number of co-sponsored bills: 404
• Number of co-sponsored bills passed: 8

I don't think people vote for him because he's good at what he does.....my opinion

Near the top of my list of concerns is that Obama has not had a life most Americans can relate too. We grew up in home town America going to public school, riding the bus, eating at Bob's Diner and going to football games on Friday night and the Drive-In on Saturday night tyhen attending Church on Sunday. Obama has nothing in common with us....his white grandparents raised him in Indonesia and he's always had the golden spoon lifestyle. I don't believe that to be a disqualifier but there's no way he can represent me....he has no conception of where I am or where I come from. He's never served except in ways that lead to a political lifestyle. He's been groomed for this from day one from the looks of things.

Certain documents are not allowed to be photocopied for the reasons I stated before.  If you look at the BOTTOM of the image I sent the link on, it makes it clear that it is the legal document required to prove what you are questioning.

The snopes link makes a good point regarding this happening EVERY election and never succeeding.  It's just yet another magician's trick meant to keep us looking at anything BUT the issues in this election. 

The couple thousand in questionable donations that the poster was referring to is CHUMP CHANGE.  I assume you aren't questioning ALL of Obama's donations with that $600 million figure.  That would be absurd.

THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE covers this kind of Cold War fear and conspiracy.  I highly recommend it. 

No, my point wasn't that I agree with his reasons for changing his mind on this - which I do. 

My comments were geared to the CONSERVATIVES in this debate, as I found it hypocritical of them to bash Obama for changing his mind on this, but not on McCain for changing his position on everything he used to believe it - merely for the duration of this campaign.  If you're going to semantically call Obama a "liar" for changing his position on this, then you must, in fairness and good conscience, call McCain a "liar" all of his newly found positions over this campaign.

And I'm certain that Barak is not laughing at any of the stuff that's left the mouth of his choice for VP lately.

However, his VP choice Biden did laugh heartily in a TV interviewer when asked for his opinion of Obama's statement, made on the radio that he, Obama,  believed that the wealth, presently in the hands of American citizens, should be "redistributed".

Biden's reaction alone, clearly unable or unwilling to address or clarify questionable statements made by his running mate, makes me even more nervous about the comment Barak made that would suggest that American’s live too well and that our standard of living is too high for the rest of the world to tolerate. It would appear that, somehow, Barak Obama thinks that Americans need to be accepted by the rest of the world community and that, to do so, we must lower our standard of living.

          ""We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK. That's not leadership. That's not going to happen."
-- Barack Obama

Yes, it is good to have a healthy relationship with the rest of the world, however lowering your standards to meet the low standards of others is definitely not leadership. It's more like cowardice rooted in low self-esteem or succumbing to guilt for being successful in the world, though I notice no guilt being displayed by the outrageous extravagance displayed in what would appear to be out of control spending throught the oil producing countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Dubai. When your friends have lower standards than you do, you shouldn't lower yourself to meet them at their level but rather, as a true leader, you should raise theirs up. Barak needs to learn this. This is true leadership in the direction that most Americans, who still believe in capitalism, think we need to go. The change that we might expect from someone who says that we live too well might not be the Change that we really want.

Absolutely!  Bullshit is bullshit no matter where it comes from!

Hey, just because we don't necessarily agree on which man or woman might make the next best president doesn't mean we all don't have common ground.  I respect everyone here, regardless of position, for putting their neck out enough to state their positions and engage in this discussion/debate.

I think it is clear that we all LOVE this country.  And I think we all know we could NEVER have this kind of discussion in China, Iran, etc.

And, of course, we all love parfaits. 

Obama was raised in Indonesia only from the age of 6 to 10.  Then he went to school in Hawaii, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, etc.  4 years, as a child, out of 47.  And, unless you attended high school football games when you were in elementary school, your comparison is utterly incorrect.  He did all the things you talk about, as an American student and citizen in the same public schools and classes all of us did.  Football games, the works.

He has attended Catholic Church EVERY SUNDAY for twenty years (since he was Baptized in 1988), which is more than most American Christians can say.  And just as long as George W. Bush has been a clean and sober Methodist. 

Before that, he was non-denominational as his parents and grandparents were non-practicing Christians and his biological father (who he met only once for a month before his death) had long before turned from Islam to atheism. 

His mother and stepfather raised him for those four years in Indonesia.  His "white grandparents" raised him in the United States after that.

Actually, this is utterly absurd.  It is well documented how hard he and his family worked to see Obama make it to college and through his graduation from Columbia and Harvard Law.

If you can't be bothered to learn the truth about both candidates, then you are letting you vote serve as a simple ideological tool, rather than its intended purpose.  If you identify more with McCain and will thus vote for him, so be it, but to denigrate Obama's life of struggle with utter fallacies is disingenuous and unnecessary.

Again, I'll use wikipedia just because the summaries are peer-vetted and contain complete citations to the material presented within. And therefore it is easy for all to see if I have misquoted or misread anything.

Barack and his family

His maternal grandparents

I'm sorry you're correct.....we had a common lifestyle......I attended a $1,000/month private school in my formative years as well.........what public high school did he graduate from?

I'm not seeing it.......even in your links the Wikipedia stuff or anywhere else

edit: since we're on the wiki...here you go....public school my ass  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punahou_School

Because it's time for a leader of intelligence and integrity who is a good family man and clearly knows how to raise his family right.

He is a self-made man of vision who was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has worked harder for the American Dream that I had to.

Because this country has been saddled with utterly mediocre, milquetoast candidates from BOTH parties for far too long (thank you Iowa! ahem).

He's the real deal - a leader and a true statesman.

Because it's time to put decades of ignorance born of irrational fear behind us - especially those who are still fighting the Vietnam War in their minds or are still afraid of blacks, immigrants, commies/socialists, and people who are gay. 

The younger generation (in heart and mind, not age) isn't afraid of any of these things.  Nor should they be.

It's "sea change" time.

Where did I say public school?!

Either way, why does not attending a public high school eliminate him from public service?!  They had a football team, local restaurants, etc. etc. just like any other school mentioned in your previous (and nostalgic for the, um, 1950's) post.

Regardless, since you can't vote for "private boarding school" McCain now either, I guess that leaves you voting for who, Ralph Nader?!  

Did you vote for Bush?  Anyone who's going to give Obama crap for his Copper Spoon, had better have given Bush crap for his Platinum Spoon?  Otherwise, they'd be a hypocrit on this issue.

I agree wholeheartedly.  And I really don't think Iowa should be filtering our candidates for the rest of the nation.  Pehaps regional primaries would help make elections a lot shorter and more "balanced".  In the case of three or four parties, that sort of opportunity to make a huge difference in hanving more than two people on the ballot come November too.

Exactly.  There are a huge number of middle-men in between the caregivers and the patients now.  Get rid of them and you'll find the doctors make MORE money, don't have to make such unconscionable sacrifices (the leg or the right procedure), and the patients get better care.  And yes, it costs us all less, because the profiteers are gone.

You know, the way health care insurance used to cover us in the 50's and 60's and the same way it now works in every other civilized nation in the world BUT ours...ahem.

No spin, no hype.  I've lived overseas and have seen these health care systems first hand.  We have the world's greatest caregivers being marked up 1000% so that HMOs and insurance companies can show stock dividends at the cost of everyday human lives.

Not long to go now, will it be the candidate that has suffered and fought for his county his whole life or... The candidate... who... hasn't...at all..in anyway... what - so - ever?

Choose wisely !