The next time you speak with Senator Obama, you might want to tell him that this new department was started at the behest of the democrat leadership. It is called the Department of Homeland Security, it oversees data from CIA, FBI, DIA, NSA, ICE, TSA and LEO or as we call it the alphabet soup. Next time you pass a border patrol officer you might notice that their logo has changed from the department of immigration and naturalization to the department of homeland security. The new organization called ICE and a few others now work under the DHS logo.

So if what you are saying is true then either the Senator is unaware of DHS or wants to spend billions of dollars to invent a department that already exists. Yup, make him president and he might discover air or water. Given that we already have this DHS thing it is natural to wonder why he feels the need to have a national security force.

Here is an example of what I mean. When that nut with a bomb was discovered in Orlando, Florida the alphabet soup was notified and updated minute by minute including the president and vice president members of congress and all department heads. AQ has been trying to find a weakness in our county since 9/11 and they have not stopped trying.

What new security force do we need?



I don’t care that Senator Obama is colored, I do care that he is an empty suit trying to become president. In times of crisis you need people that can act decisively in a storm. I don’t see that in him. I don’t care that he stated that there are 57 states, or that he was against the war.
I do care that he wants to create a national security force with the same manpower and money as our military.
I do care that he does not think the war on terror is winnable.
I do care that he believes the surge will not work, and when proven wrong steadfastly states that he would still be against the surge even though it worked.
I do care that he slams the country he wants to lead.
You see the content of his character is measured by what he says and does, and by the company he keeps. The Senator is weak in character and will put our nation in danger because of it.
Each president is tested by other nations when they are perceived as weak. President Kennedy was perceived as weak and we had the Cuban missile crisis. President Carter was perceived as weak and we had the hostage take over of our embassy. President Reagan was perceived as strong and we were not tested by nations. President Clinton was perceived as weak and AQ planned to attack us on our own soil twice. President Bush was perceived as weak by the Chinese and they tested him. They now want to be friends and have not tested him again.

The next president will be tested by Russia, China, and AQ or what is left of them. If whoever is president fails the test by any of them we as a nation will be attacked again. The skin colour is not important to me, his ability to lead is very important to me. That is why I am afraid because I don’t trust the republican or democrat candidate for president. One will destroy us economically and weaken the nation. The other will make us vulnerable to physical attack and weaken the nation.

We need a president that will scare the urine out of our enemies and understand business so we can prosper. I want a president that will make our enemies call up and apologize for having a dream of messing with us. We have that with the current president but it was not apparent until China tested him, when we were attacked on 9/11 I knew AQ miscalculated, their plan was to have Mr. Gore as president and they believed the trash in the news about Mr. Bush.

I only have a little time to respond as I am leaving town tonight to go play some paintball, so beifly on each topic here.  The Surge didnt work.  Have you looked at how much money was spread out to all the different groups to stop fight?  Iraqi gov got some sunni's got a ton, shiites got a bunch...The surge didnt work, the cash flow worked and that is fact.                                                                                        

I look at our country and I dont like all the things we do as well.  Have you ever looked at what the US(bush 1 and 2) have done in africa with regaurd to gold.....look for some stories its actually kinda sick taking advantage of very poor people to basically harvest gold from africa.  As for what comapany he keeps how about mccains chief economic guy and former senator calling this a mental recession, how about his preacher man and the anti black things he has said, oh and have all you guys forgotten that mccaiin was apart of the keating five?  But he weaseled out of that one.

Reagan wasnt tested????  I mean some of the weakest nations(lybia, Grenada) in the world and some of the strongest(USSR) tested him just as they did kennedy.  Kennedy came out on top big time, and I have to give it to Reagan so did he with regards to that.  However even Reagan spoke to "Evil Empires."

This you really cant fully know till they are president.  Many didnt think Reagan could be a strong diplomat because he was just an actor, but he was....blew our economy for it though.  Many thought kennedy was weak but he stood toe to toe with the soviets and won.

Dont forget that Gore was in the military as well, I dont think Gore would have rolled over I think he would have used all the sympathy and offers of help and went after the people who actually did the bombing not use 9/11 as a catapult to go to war with a nation(albeit a horribly lead and terribly lead nation), that went after his daddy years before.

I am an amateur historian and I can tell you that many of the degree held historians I know rate bush very low, not very far ahead of presidents like coolidge as far as his presidency, that could change but not drastically.

I would also like to thank you for the way in which you responded being able to disagree yet have a civil conversation is nice, best to you and your family.

 

Yes, Mr. Gore was in the military, he was a news photographer. That hardly qualifies him in war strategy.



I heard the same trash about President Reagan and now they all cheer him as the great communicator, he untied the people. Brought democrats and republicans together, stopped communism. I don’t hear that about Mr. Kennedy.



Sorry but Mr. Kennedy did not come out on top that was political spin. He was sinking so badly in the polls that he had to make a special trip to Dallas because the democrat base was not going to vote for him in the next election. Back then Texas was a democrat stronghold and even with his vice president from there he could not hold that state.

The Cuban missile crisis was not masterful diplomacy it was a wash with secret deals. If the USSR backed down publically then he would dismantle the Jupiter missiles in Turkey which was the cause of the crisis to begin with. You know how many hundreds of millions of dollars Mr. Kennedy gave to Cuba just to keep the peace? That is not coming out on top that is buying your way out of a crisis you can't manage any other way. Are you sure you studied history?

I forgot about Grenada and I was in the Marines when that happened, but you are correct I had forgotten about all those tests that Mr. Reagan faced because at the time I was there dealing with some of it. Must be getting old.



When you are running for president, the figure head, the leader of our nation, why would you want the job if you are ashamed of your country?



Well seeing as it has not him me or my neighbors I would have to agree that it is a mental recession. A recession is two or more consecutive quarters of negative growth. We have not had that so what would you call it? People hear on the news that times are tough and as Rush Limbaugh has stated many times, most people are doing okay but they fear that their neighbors are not. Where are the people that are not doing well? The poor? They were poor before so that has not changed. The rich? They are still rich? The middle class? That would be me and I am still okay.



First the man is not his preacher he is a supporter who happens to be a preacher. I have not heard or read what he said that was so bad. It did not make the news long enough for me to care. Unlike Senator Obama’s preacher of 20+ years. or the guy that replaced him that Senator Obama had to throw under the bus. You can not equate Senator McCain’s 3 years of knowing someone that supports you and says something racist with Senator Obama’s preacher of 20 years who has gone on record with hate speech. After 20 years if he did not know the man was a racist he is inept and if he knew it then he is a racist because he stuck with him for 20 years of hate speech. It is plain and simple coloured people like him don’t need to be president.



This is incorrect his political opponents wanted you to think that he was just an actor, they chose to forget that he was a two time elected governor of the state of California a liberal democrat state then and now. they forget his policy speeches he gave stating how to fight the evils of communism in the 50’s 60’s 70’s and then he became president in the 80’s and did what he said needed to be done in his 30 years of speeches. Somehow all the opposition could remember is the movie play time for bonzo.



Sorry but that would be James Earl Carter Jr. that blew our economy. In his four years as president we went from a nation that could sustain a family of four on one income to the point he gave a televised speech to the nation telling us we needed to put our wives to work, he mismanaged our economy so badly we went into a world wide recession. That is what happens when you put a nuclear scientist in charge of a nation. Mr. Reagan on the other hand took our economy and built it up. Inflation went from double digits to single digits and gave us a tax cut to go with it. By the way the actor had his degree in economics.

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Next he's going to try to make the case that his "National Security Force" is what the 2nd Amendment's original intent.    He'd use the word "Militia" but mean the US equivalent to "Hitler-Jugend".

It's ironic that he talks about a "National Security Force" while wanting to disarm the people.  Only tyrants and criminals fear guns in the hands of law abiding citizens.

 

Hey little whip your response is very childish again nothing to add to the conversation except little swear words.  Dont lump me with anyone, I am my own person and I have not treated anyone here with disrepect.  I expect the same out of the other adults here.  How about it?

That sounds like something our current administration would do, and has done, manipulate the constitution for thier own gain.

Little whip you may also want to read my statements more closely I wasnt even refering to the word arse, but I said "your next statement"  Which was a different word.

 

Hey Paladin thanks for your service man I really appreciate the men and women who serve, my dad was in the national guard for over 20 years and my sister is in the security police in the AF and has been for about 7 years(4 tours to kuwait/Iraq already).  Unfortunatly, for me due to a physical problem(ear/hearing) I was unable to serve, But Kudos to you for doing so.

I would disagree, there are still many historians who are torn about him, while some praise him for foreign relations others also point out he was the one who really started our huge national debt(yes carter had a small one), but Reagan ballooned it and started some of the problems we are still coping with today, the "me" decade hurt.

 

The jupiters were obsolete and were coming out anyway, so we gave them nothing there.  And the hundreds of millions of dollars you are talking about sounds very familiar to what is happening in Iraq right now only its tens of billions of dollars.  I will give you though that Kennedy did slip in some popularity.

I dont think anyone running for president this year is ashamed of our country but I do think we need to confront our mistakes, unless we are willing to say we are perfect, I certainly cant say I have been in my life, not sure if anyone can.

I am a driver for UPS and I can tell you from my work and personal family experience that my family is doing worse, so are my parents, My father has to postpone his retirement by 2 years now, and there are others in my circle of friends, one who had to sell their house and they didnt even have an adjustable rate loan.  As a UPS Driver/sorter, I can tell you we have alot less business and the people who are my regulars(business and residential people) are always telling me how bad things are.....Not all of them but a pretty good amount.

 

I will give you that Obama knew his preacher for longer, but both were still supporters, and I do know that Reagan was a 2 time govener(68'-76'?).  And I do think  being a govener is better but you still cant really know until they are put in the position, just like if you are a bench player for a baseball team and suddenly you are the starter, you never know how that will turn out.

 

Have a good night Paladin.

 

Please explain what you mean here. Give examples if you can.

Funny how facts can be twisted. You think the hoods/insurgents/Iranians weren't paying Iraqis to perpetuate the violence? Once the Iraqis had a choice of payrolls to be on, look whose they chose. Whatever you choose to call it, the change in tactics and the additional boots on the ground "worked" whether you will concede it or not.

Okay you are the president of the United States of America. You have a choice, when you took office inflation was in double digits and spiraling up. You faced massive unemployment, and interest rates at 21%. This was what President Reagan faced when he took office because President Carter did nothing to ever look like he was trying to solve the problems that caused it.

He undertook a massive 30% tax cut allowing more Americans to have more money. In a sense he gave us all a pay raise. Because President Carter had cut the military budget so badly we could not fight a war or rescue hostages, the next thing was to rebuild the military and pay them. (Personal experience, one of my corporals was married and living on base, because he was in the military he is forbidden to hold another job. The only way he could feed his family was to apply and receive welfare. Think of it you are a government employee and you are eligible for welfare and food stamps!) (Personal experience, the budget was slashed so badly by Mr. Carter ( a man I voted for the first time) we were only allowed one tank of gas per vehicle per month. We were only allowed 20 rounds of blank ammunition per man per month for training. An M-16 A-1 rifle magazine holds 28 rounds of ammunition and fires at a rate of 700 rounds per minute. Live ammunition was so scarce that we only had enough money for our yearly requalification roughly three hundred rounds per year per man plus what we used on guard duty. We did not have enough money in the budget for cleaning supplies and was forced to buy our own toilet paper, and we had to chip in to buy floor cleaner and comet.) This was the thanks from a grateful nation for our service.

Just to get our military up and running we needed massive funding because for those four years of Mr. Carter we did not buy replenishment and replacement parts as needed so our equipment was falling apart. There were times there was not enough money in the budget to repair water heaters so in the winter time I had to take cold showers, and some days the heater went out so the barracks was not much warmer than it was outside. Our military was rotting from the inside out. Then the hostage crisis occurred and the American people that cheered our budget cuts demanded we go in and get our people out of Iran by force. The disastrous results are history.

The tax cuts helped jump start the economy, the military purchases that seemed excessive got people jobs. So yes, Mr. Carter had a small national debt, and on paper it looks nice but in reality the nation was in dire striates, our military could barely defend us from a sneak attack from Haiti. Double digit unemployment, crushing taxes, double digit inflation, double digit interest rates and people wondering if their next pay check will be their last as businesses laid off people to stay afloat or went out of business all together.

While Mr. Reagan had a massive national debt it was paid off in under 20 years and we had 93 months of economic growth.

President Bush’s opponents whine about the record unemployment of 4.9% that has gone all the way up to 5.7% while forgetting that the lowest President Clinton had was 5.8% and it was touted as the lowest unemployment in history.

July 1979 inflation was at 11.2% four years later under Mr. Reagan inflation was at 2.4% for the same month. The average rate of inflation for Mr. Carter was 11.2% but four years later under new leadership the average rate was 3.2% this means things were not as expensive and people can afford to buy things that keep other people employed. Never during either President Reagan or Bush did the inflation rate get larger than 5% on average for any given year once he started to bring the rate down it stayed down.

When Mr. Clinton was in office his last years interest rates were at 8% Mr. Bush demanded a tax cut and interest rates dropped to 6% this is big because the last time interest rates were at 6% President Kennedy was in office. Two years later interest rates fell to 5% they have been going up but wars will do that, it has gotten as high as 8% and is currently at 7%.

I could not find a historical chart of interest rates to compare Carter and Reagan but I lived through it and it went down not up or stagnated.

I wrote an article showing how it was not the me generation of the 80’s that was to fault it was the me generation of the 60’s that was the cause. When the liberals demanded we stop teaching ethics in colleges, stop teaching the mandatory theology classes to get a business degrees we created the mess in the 80’s. Guess what? You now have to take ethics again because we stopped teaching it and the reason for teaching the class slapped us in the face 20 years later when those kids became business leaders with no ethical or moral compass.

Let me put it like this, I have an obsolete WWII atomic bomb in my basement still in working order. I have let everyone know I have this little toy and you live next door. Do you feel threatened by it? What the Soviet Union did was park a few next door to us.

Next you take the 1960’s budget of a few hundred billion dollars and make the equivalent budget today and what do you have? Tens of billions of dollars. Only this time we are not paying a dictator we are using the money to help build an ally. You are using American mindsets in an Arab world. There it is who is the strongest and who is the richest that get the loyalties. If you are not perceived as the winner before the battle you are a non-starter. To show you have power you give financial favors to your friends. This is normal politics over there. As soon as the Iraqis saw they were going to lose they quit. Over there it is easy to tell the losing side. Everyone on the losing side gets killed, families included, so 20 years later there are no revenge killings. Think of this strange concept. You have a political election and the loser and those that supported the loser are left alive to try in the next election. This is a very new concept over there. You mean I support Mohamed and he loses and my family is not going to be killed by the victor? And you allow such things in your country? Yes we do. But your leader is weak if he allows his enemies to live. Not in my country and now the same will be true in your country.

Remember the last election Saddam won? On the ballot you had to put who you voted for as well as your name and address. Keeping that mindset who would you vote for? My vote is for Saddam all the way!

My point is that you are trying to put American rules and values on a people that have no understanding of them. It will take a few generations of free elections to show that it is okay to voice your opinion.

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I trust the government's data.

Please tell me how we have not confronted our mistakes.



Supporters? His preacher was his advisor on race relations for his campaign! And don’t give me that unpaid crap. 90% of his staff is unpaid. The man he chose to advise him was a racist giving him his racist views.

Senator McCain on the other hand has people supporting him but not part of his campaign, not an advisor just an independent person who ran off at the mouth. When he did the Senator said no, this is not me, he does not represent me.

Senator Obama first stood by him, then said he does not represent me. When it was pointed out that he was the Senator’s advisor the senator said that he is an unpaid advisor. When it was pointed out that he was still an advisor is when he disavowed him but kept him as his advisor. When the press pushed hard then he dismissed him from the campaign but still went to church. This is not just some supporter that ran off at the mouth the preacher was part of the senators campaign staff and it took months to finally get rid of him.

hope you slept well.