It is not that they are doing the exact same things as the republicans did, it is that they claimed they would be more ethical and fiscally responsible. They had not even assumed power before breaking their first promise. And now they are on target to break one a day for the remainder of their stay in power.

ya'll just don't like the fact that they found a way to get the votes and put the honus on the president. it's political hardball, and both parties play it.



and in this bill, i didn't see any "bridges to nowhere" or "liberace museums" in there. it might be pork, but it's more like a canned ham than scrapple. while i'm not pleased about more spending, i'll take the old school methods of compromise and "one hand washing the other" to the charachter assasination and the like that the neoconservatives brought to washington in force in the last several years.

LOL.

Yeah, only the "neo-cons" do that.  Give me  break.

No, just the likes of peanut houses.

Like I said, it is not that they are doing it - as that does not surprise me. It is that they lied and continue to lie about it.

i said "in force" meaning they took it to a new level. and we learn how far they took it more and more every day.

Sorry, but democrats are just as guilty.  The only difference is the media doesn't pick up on it.  However this was about democrats wasting money when they campaigned on "change".  As usual you can't trust them to keep to their promises either.

the biggest (by far) "change" they promised was in Iraq. you are ignoring the fact that this is all about Iraq. the compromises are just the old school way of getting the votes, and i'll take that over darth cheney's ways any day.

Good catch to have noticed that the Clueless One hasn't piped in on this issue at all.  He's still trying to figure out how to spin it so that it would Bush's fault.

i must have missed that one...how much is that costing us and what exactly is it?

This isn't all about Iraq.  This is democrats putting in their pork all the while telling us about how they would be "different".

Democrats are not going to do anything abotu Iraq because they can't even decide their stance on it.  They have to appease the far left loons that want us to run, and they know that won't sit well well with most voters.

Actually, no, they did not. Their biggest campaign was on ethics. Billy J anyone?

The kooks of their base wanted it to be Iraq, but notice how they are weasling out of that one as well.

What? You dont like peanuts and ham? Tsk tsk! SOSDP

ethics was #2 in my book,,,but whatever...i addressed the "billy j" issue and pelosi's mishandling of him last month and got not 1 acknowledgement from the right for blasting speaker pelosi.WWW Link

Hmm....still don't see anybody complaining about democratic spending. 

i believe i did, tho in fairness, i did put it in context of a "lesser of 2 evils" as i see it with the choices and climate we have.

and ya gotta admit dog, that the way they did it was pretty smart, and it probably is the best chance they have for any kind of success with their agenda. many of the projects are those "unsexy" but pretty worthwhile ones, especially the bones they have thrown the GOP. some of those congressmen know that this may be the best or in some cases only chance they have to get what they need for their districts. something the GOP didn't do for the democrats during their reign. i don't think their methodology is the most honorable, nor the sleaziest i have ever seen...it's just old fashioned "back scratchin" politics. and honestly, after what i've seen over the last decade or so (from both sides) with the "back stabbing" styles and so forth, it's almost a welcome change...almost.