While what he did was very stupid and inexcusable, over 2 years in jail for it is ridiculous.  The sad thing is he got more time for posting hateful messages than he did for having child porn on his computer. 

"A man who posted racist messages on a website in memory of murdered black teenager Anthony Walker was jailed for more than three years today.

Neil Martin, 30, emailed at least six comments to the website - less than a week after Anthony was killed with an ice axe in a racist attack in Huyton, Merseyside, last year."


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on Oct 07, 2006
While what he did was very stupid and inexcusable, over 2 years in jail for it is ridiculous.


I hear what your saying, it does seem pretty stiff. I'm not really to sure how the law in the UK runs as compared to here in the States.

One thing I can say though, I would like to see more convictions and stiffer penalties for crimes commited over the internet.
on Oct 07, 2006
Oh….Sorry wrong thread…………I was looking for Skinning forums……my bad
on Oct 07, 2006
He is a disgusting individual and should have got 2 years on top for the child porn i.e. 4 years and he should serve every day of the 4 years!
on Oct 07, 2006
I don't believe anyone should ever be jailed for speaking a particular idea of ethos, however disgusting. Granted, no one should be allowed to yell fire in a crowded theater, but that isn't what happened here. All this is doing is setting up a state when certain ideas are illegal to express, and that is a dangerous road to start down.
on Oct 07, 2006

All this is doing is setting up a state when certain ideas are illegal to express, and that is a dangerous road to start down.

Today England, tomorrow the US?  I fear it will cross the atlantic.

on Oct 07, 2006
It's already in Canada, and if you listen to some folks in San Fransisco it's there, too. At least expressing ideas they deem hateful makes you too unsavory to hold your conventions, etc., there.
on Oct 07, 2006
The way I read the article, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is the sentence was not so much based on the slurs, but rather this young mans intention to insite a riot?

"Martin suggested that white people should celebrate the murder, that Anthony's family should be burned and made references to slavery and a "banana boat"

"He told the officers he had intended to stir up an argument on the website but did not believe in what he had written."
on Oct 07, 2006

Shows how back to front this country has gotten. He should have got ten years for the child porn and a telling off for his bad attitude. This is all the fault of the do-gooders and their obsession with political correctness.

Sadly the crime of 'inciting racial hatred' only goes one way here. It was perfectly ok for muslims to hold a mass demonstration, burn the national flag, and carry 'behead the white pigs' slogans. But if ever a white person says one word about someone from an ethnic group...well...

We now have a national manhunt for someone who snatched the veil off a muslim woman. A very serious crime indeed! This follows comments by politician Jack Straw who said he preferred women to remove their veils when meeting him so he could see their faces. Seems like a fair request to me. It may be their custom, but our custom is to not deliberatly try to hide your identity.

All this makes me start to wonder just whose country this is   

on Oct 07, 2006
As much as I despise racial hatred, this is absurd. Everyone, even stupid racist assholes have a right to voice their opinion.
on Oct 07, 2006
This is simple.......the uk loves liberalism and political correctness, The man clearly was not behaving correctly. Liberals love free speech so long as it is politically correct speech. The fact that he had child porn on his computer meant nothing to a liberal.......he was being incorrect with his hurtful speech. No matter how ignorant or crude it may have been, in a socialist environment his political incorrectness was much more criminal. The same thing has begun here in America, the retarded example set by the idiots in the uk goes on each day throughout the world and I fear it will scratch a hole deeper in America. We just won't stop voting for liberals. Socialism and politically correctness are worthless, utterly useless. I'm glad the uk put forth another fine example of just how closed minded they truly are. Stop voting for liberals, stop encouraging liberals, we'll deal with ignorant racists remarks on our own terms certainly not yours. Liberals want nicely paved roads with good intentions. Ever hear the term the road filled with good intentions leads to hell? Think about it.


Be safe.
on Oct 07, 2006
Political correctiveness is a pet peeve of mine. One group can say whatever they wish while another group is slammed for saying the exact same thing. Or people are attacked for saying something that is obviously the truth. And to add insult to the situation this jerk gets off for having child porn. Talk about screwed up priorities. No wonder our societies are falling apart.
on Oct 08, 2006
I dislike racial prejudice, but 3 years jail is overkill, particularly when he had child porn which should have attracted a much stiffer penalty. To have ignored the child porn while pursuing him for racial comments is totally arse-backwards and betrays the victims (and their families) of child exploitation/abuse.
on Oct 08, 2006

Granted, no one should be allowed to yell fire in a crowded theater, but that isn't what happened here.

Baker....it's called 'incitement'....and curiously, since the internet/emails come under the heading of 'Telecommunications' [phone lines] even swearing is an offence under the act...so next time you 'say' "fuck Bush" .....yer breaking a 'law'....

 

Needless to say no-one seems to care....

on Oct 08, 2006
so next time you 'say' "fuck Bush" .....yer breaking a 'law'.


It's not that no-one cares, it's just impossible to arrest 46 billion people...

on Oct 08, 2006
Shows how back to front this country has gotten. He should have got ten years for the child porn and a telling off for his bad attitude. This is all the fault of the do-gooders and their obsession with political correctness.


Seems their priorities are up their tushes - Im not the type of person that would resort to racial slurs - I have found that idiocy doesn't descriminate. But the sentence is harsh for the crime - yet child porm makes me puke and he should rot.
.so next time you 'say' "fuck Bush" .....yer breaking a 'law'...


It's not that no-one cares, it's just impossible to arrest 46 billion people.


Poor Georgie Porgie - he gets no respect - good part is - noone cares.
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