A Microsoft Senior Desing Anthropologist said job seekers will think twice about working for a company who locks down the internet during work hours.

She says, "These kids are saying: forget it! I don’t want to work with you. I don’t want to work at a place where I can’t be freely online during the day."

I'm sure people will take different stands on this issue because businesses say that allowing open internet will cause less work to be done throughout the work period. Others seem to say it will be a benefit to the employee.

What do you think?


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on Aug 23, 2006
LOCK IT DOWN! and let the "kids" go try to earn a living elsewhere.
Frivolous surfing costs far more than lost productivity. It adds to IT costs from removal of spyware, unauthorized applications, games, yadayadayada..
on Aug 23, 2006
lock it down. period.
on Aug 23, 2006
I don't understand why companies would want to not lock it down. So what if their employees are complaining. I would venture the ones complaining aren't the ones who are the most productive. What could possibly be the advantages if having access to the internet except to waste time? Most companies have an intranet for company specific internet needs.
I say let the complainers walk because apparently they don't wish to go to work to work.
I even hear some people don't have internet at home because they have it at work. So the company they work for is paying for their internet use as well as paying for them as a worker. It doesn't make sense.
Keep it locked down.
on Aug 23, 2006
I'm happy to agree... LOCK IT DOWN.
on Aug 23, 2006
There is way too much anal micro-management in today's workplace. Leave the Internet accessable and fire the workers who abuse the privilege and who are not performing at or above the company's proficiency standards. Employees perform at much higher levels when they are given ownership in their part of the organization.
on Aug 23, 2006
lock it down. I'm on the internet all day, but being realistic, the company has a right to protect its investments.

IT is too busy to monitor 200 employee's internet habbits. Less of people installing toolbars, travelosity/weather/shopping system tray terds, and ad/shopware that gums up the computer.
on Aug 23, 2006
Being the BOFH responsible for the whole infrastructure of my employer, let me say this:

When the corporate network was established a couple of years ago, the owner decided to leave internet access open, and only set written policies on internet use. Productivity did not suffer from it. However, the maintenance costs went through the roof because of trashed machines.

Thus the computers themselves were locked down tighter - which DID impact productivity and did nothing to make them any less reliable. Even a fully locked down Windows box is in all truth anything BUT locked down for a local user who has to have the ability to load stuff from removable media - including executing programs.

Finally I overrode the bosses decision and locked down the network tighter as a drum. EVERY action on the network gets logged: file accesses, programs run, documents opened and so on and so on. In addition, internet access got limited to the point where employees went through a filtering proxy and have the ability to request opening a blocked page. Productivity is back up, and last years tech support costs were the lowest in company history.

I would never, ever, give employees open access to the internet again. The only people who have unrestricted access here are managers, the main office staff and the IT department and a few selected people who subjectively (i.e. in my opinion) seemed to be responsible users - but even for that group, every single thing they do on a computer gets monitored. Paranoid? Yes, because the majority of humans are generally irresponsible, careless and generally need a gun pointed to their heads to make sure they work as they should.

The only thing that's now down is my popularity, and I could not care less about that.

Just recently the boss instated a new rule: Try to circumvent the imposed restrictions and go look for a new job - no exceptions, you get fired the same day.
on Aug 23, 2006
Well I can honestly say it diminishes work load tremendously. When I was going to school for my MCSE Certification, all the students did was surf the net while the instructor lectured, and later wondered why they couldn't pass a test for their Certification. Just my input!
on Aug 23, 2006
If it's locked down where I work, nothing would get done.

Everything we do is done via the net now. I run a visitor information center & tour booking service.

Ninety-nine percent of our bookings are done online these days. If the internet is down, we have to use a manual ticketing system ~which is a right royal pain-in-the-butt.

We also use the internet for searching information on tours/products we may not carry or have displayed. So, it's necessary to be on the net for my/our jobs.

However, I do have complete access to the work computers from home [when I'm on days off etc.] so I can see what my staff are up to at any given time. It's not something I really need to check very often ...as I know that the staff are just too busy with customers to be surfing the net. Our office/shop is in a prime location, and is heavily trafficked ..all day.

I do agree with the majority here ...If the net is not a major tool in the workplace, then it should be locked down. Screw the buggers who won't work if there's no net ..they weren't going to do much anyway, and would'nt last long working for me
on Aug 23, 2006

Our company allows Internet access to those who need to do any business related work.

They also have keystroke logging and internet tracking software, so that when annual reviews come around, these are part of the process. If the supervisor giving the review sees someone out at a dating site, or other sites not related to work on company time (not lunch or before shift start), then the pay increase may be affected.

IMO - a good policy.

One big reason Internet access becomes an issue here, is due to the novice user who thinks nothing of going to their online e-mail account and opening dubious e-mails, which often results in headaches for the IS / IT personnel. These same users seem to be unaware of the downtime in the network that can occur due to their inability to use the Internet with some level of awareness of potential hazards.

Now the productivity of not only the individual is affected, but many other users as well.

on Aug 23, 2006
I think it depends on the job, I have nothing against locking it down but I would like it to be open. If you have a job you should be responsible enough to not use the internet for anything stupid. Locking it down prevents people from using great things such as Google's writely or Google Speadsheets.
on Aug 23, 2006
remember this:

having internet at work is a privaledge, not a right. your employer is responsible for providing the tools nessesary to do your job. if the net is a tool that you need, they can very well restrict access to anything other than what you require. you don't require access to your personal email or need the ability to monitor your fantasy football team to do your job. unless fantasy football and email IS your job. internet at work is a tool, not a toy.

written policies are nice, but in this day and age people will use any excuse imaginable to link their job to that video game website they visit 800 times a day, no matter what their job is.
on Aug 24, 2006
I think a lot of it has to do with the reasons for allowing/denying internet access. I can't say I have a lot of sympathy for someone who will freak out and turn down what might be an otherwise good job just because they can't browse the web. But on the other hand, there are quite a few job duties that are benefitted by (if not require) general internet access.

One can make the argument that a company intranet should have all information needed by an employee, but that's very difficult to achieve, especially for most information workers. General research is a *required* ability for any good information worker, and the internet can be an invaluable source of information, and unnecessarily restricting that access is counterproductive.

Most of the 'analysis' that states that this kind of thing is detrimental to productivity tends to be shortsighted or outright wrong. If the people who work for me (or with me) are doing their jobs, and meeting their deadlines, deliverables, etc., I don't really care if they spend a little time browsing the web, or doing personal business, or whatever. People should be measured by how well they meet their job duties, not by how 'busy' they appear to be.

IMHO, the only close to reasonable argument is the spyware/malware/unsupported applications problem with unrestricted internet access. That's not an unsolvable problem, even when allowing access. The company I work for allows us to have general internet access (and has no general problem even with personal use, within reason), but we don't have any significant problem with the negative effects (spyware, etc.), because the individual boxes are pretty well locked down, there are reasonable filters on some types of sites, and the employees are held fully accountable if they do something stupid. People are judged on their *performance*, not on 'looking busy'. As a result, the employees are better able to do their jobs, they feel like they aren't being micromanaged by some moron who can't figure out how to measure actual productivity, and the generally loose attitude about the work environment reduces work stress and actually improves the overall working conditions. We don't have the spyware/malware, etc. problems because we actually manage the environment, we don't just put some policy in place and hope it will solve all of our perceived 'problems'.

It's a simple truism: if you cannot properly manage your people when they have things like relatively open internet access (or any other 'perk'), you cannot properly manage them if they do not have these things, either. You get an order of magnitude more work out of an employee who is content and feels like they have some freedom than you get out of an employee who is constantly looking over their shoulder waiting for the axe to drop over even the slightest 'transgression'.
on Aug 24, 2006
I have two very good reasons for the total lock down position. I will make this short and sweet. I have two sisters In two completely different jobs in completely different States thousands of miles away from each other who on purpose do not have internet service at home because they have total access at work and email accounts and all. They both even have access at work on weekends because of overtime. I am not talking about kids. My sisters are much older then I. To give you a clue they are "baby boomers" looking to retire in five years or so. So the problem surpasses age. It can be a problem for any company anywhere without reguards to age. So I say LOCK IT DOWN!!!
on Aug 24, 2006
I have two very good reasons for the total lock down position. I will make this short and sweet. I have two sisters In two completely different jobs in completely different States thousands of miles away from each other who on purpose do not have internet service at home because they have total access at work and email accounts and all. They both even have access at work on weekends because of overtime. I am not talking about kids. My sisters are much older then I. To give you a clue they are "baby boomers" looking to retire in five years or so. So the problem surpasses age. It can be a problem for any company anywhere without reguards to age. So I say LOCK IT DOWN!!!


If the companies that they work for don't have a problem with thier behaviour, then there's certainly no reason for you to have a problem with it. And if their companies do have a problem, then your sisters should be disciplined or fired. There's certainly no reason for your sensibilities to have any involvement in the matter at all.

There is nothing inherent about internet access that creates someone who will abuse their job or slack off needlessly. If that internet access didn't exist, those kind of people would find something else to waste their time on.

If you want to manage a bunch of children, work at a day care. If you want to manage adults, judge them on their performance, not on what you think they might be doing behind your back.
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