Published on January 10, 2006 By Island Dog In Politics
It's Bush's fault. Worst economy since Hoover.


NEW YORK - The Dow Jones industrial average crossed 11,000 Monday for the first time since before the 9/11 terrorist attacks, buoyed by a New Year's rally that has sent stock prices soaring.

Wall Street's best known stock indicator rose to 11,001.26 shortly after 1 p.m. EST, the first time since June 13, 2001, that the index of 30 blue chip stocks traded above that milestone. It last closed above 11,000 on June 7, 2001, when it stood at 11,090.74.

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on Jan 11, 2006
Dow falls 5 point, we are done for, Dow goes up 5 point, big deal. Is this how people really think? How exactly did this country become one of the most if not the most powerful country in the world with mentalities like this? It's almost as if somehow the dumb people have finally won one against the smart ones.
on Jan 11, 2006
I am heavy into Techs, so I follow the NASDAQ closer.


All right, if you want to get technical:

YAY S&P 500! YAY S&P MID-CAP 400! And YAY RUSSELL 2000!

But I can also say "YAY DOW!" because I own a lot of DVY, an ETF that holds the top 40 dividend-paying Dow Stocks.
on Jan 11, 2006
Dow Jones Industrials Cross 11,000

That's incredible! So if you had invested $50,000 when Bush took office in 2001, you'd now have... let me get out my calculator... you'd now have... $50,000!!!
on Jan 11, 2006

That's incredible! So if you had invested $50,000 when Bush took office in 2001, you'd now have... let me get out my calculator... you'd now have... $50,000!!!

Only if your investors sucked.  Actually, mine has about doubled now.  The secret?  Stay out of the dot com crap of the clinton years.

on Jan 11, 2006
Dow falls 5 point, we are done for, Dow goes up 5 point, big deal. Is this how people really think?


That's how liberals think.
on Jan 11, 2006
Dow falls 5 point, we are done for, Dow goes up 5 point, big deal. Is this how people really think?- BenUser, (L) JU


That's how liberals think.
- Island Dog (R) (I guess), JU

Yes, truly, only a 'liberal' thinks like this.

Honestly, I think it would be more concise to say that the statement offered by Benuser is probably more indicative of how someone who doesn't play the market may think.

For the flipside perspective, the stock market achieving new highs is actually bad news for those new investors just now buying - those already with the cash are doing well. 'Duh' for those of us who play.

It's been shown (and Hell BURN anyone who asks me to drag out links) that over the duration of the years only a few things increase in value in America - stocks, and real estate. Guess why? Population growth.



Dr. Guy, would you give us the Econ. major's perspective?

*remember that ol' Macroeconomics 101 course?*
on Jan 12, 2006

Dr. Guy, would you give us the Econ. major's perspective?

You have it pretty much correct.  The Dow is not even indicative of the market in general, just 30 blue chips.  The S&P is a much better indicator of how the market is doing.  But the market is an indicator of the over all feeling of investors (who as we saw with the dot com crap is not always right).  When the market is advancing, as it is, the investors feel the economy is doing well and that the companies will ride the economy to bigger and better profits.  So in that respect, it is a lagging indicator of expectations, but often a leading indicator of the performance of the economy as you do not want to get in on a stock at its peak, but rather as it begins its assent.  And unlike most of us, these investors (the good ones) do not pay attention to headlines, they dig for the numbers underneath to make their buys and recommendations.

While the strength of the market is a positive influence on consumer confidence, that is about all it is.  But if you are going to watch the market to gauge the economy, you will always come up short because often the market is still rising, when the economy has already started to weaken.  Catch it on the upswing (knowing the difference between an upswing and a short blip is important and damn near impossible), and you can retire in no time!  Mis time your jump into the market, and you are going to be that 80 year old Wal Mart Greeter.

on Jan 12, 2006
That is why the stock market is the best place to dump your cash. Over time, it will outpace bonds, savings bonds, and especially savings accounts.

Just be sure to diversify!
on Jan 12, 2006
Thanks for the professional view, Dr. Guy, that should help anyone with a misunderstanding of the basics of the market, or at least, bring things into tighter focus for those not 'in the know'.
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