Published on November 2, 2005 By Island Dog In Politics
I have been watching the story about the riots in France, and just today I discovered these were islamists doing the rioting. Interesting how the MSM failed to mention this point when reporting.


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on Nov 03, 2005
i seriously doubt detroit's infamous annual 'hell night' house burning has anything to do with islam, christianity or even daoism.
on Nov 03, 2005
don't really matter if they're muslims, janes, zoroastians or elks.


Elks are scary. Especially in an overcrowded room. Especially when there's only one donut left and it's on the opposite side of the overcrowded room from the Elks.

They'd overturn and burn a car to get to it. (Burning cars scare the Meese.)

Just don't ask me how the car got in the room. I was too skeered by the Elks to notice.
on Nov 03, 2005

crowd too many people into too small a space, allow employers to unfairly exploit them when there's work available and discriminate against dark skin when jobs are difficult to find and it'll happen every time.


France did none of these things.

These people all moved to France of their own free will. France did NOT "crowd" them into a small place, they MOVED there themselves.

French employers do not "exploit them". If they did, these people would not want to live in France and work for French companies, but rather live in their original countries and work for, presumably better, employers there.

And finally, I understand Arabs are white. I didn't read much about the riots, but I understand the rioters were not Africans? (Do Africans riot in France? Do the French treat Africans worse than Arabs? If this was about dark skin, I would assume so, wouldn't I?)

And if this really happens every time, then perhaps there is something wrong with the decision made by those people to live in France and work for French companies.
on Nov 03, 2005

considering france is arguably the largest secular nation in europe


Turkey?


if not the world


China?
on Nov 03, 2005
I'm just curious, kingbee, is there any rioter, looter, terrorist, or criminal (other than those with white skin, of course) that you won't make excuses for


i'm not making excuses for anyone. i don't see much sense in empowering fanatics by giving them credit they don't deserve.
on Nov 03, 2005
Just don't ask me how the car got in the room. I was too skeered by the Elks to notice


i think the mystic knights of the sea left the lodgehall door unguarded or somethin.
on Nov 03, 2005

considering france is arguably the largest secular nation in europe

How do you come to that conclusion?

on Nov 03, 2005
France did NOT "crowd" them into a small place, they MOVED there themselves


did i say france crowded them into anywhere? that would be as silly as claiming nyc crowded waves of volunteer immigrants into the lower east side...or the bronx...or brooklyn.

French employers do not "exploit them". If they did, these people would not want to live in France and work for French companies, but rather live in their original countries and work for, presumably better, employers there.


hell the french dont wanna work for french employers. and they're getting a lot better deal than prospective employees who don't appear to be european. many of their families originally immigrated to france in the 60s and 70s by french companies recruting cheap unskilled laborers in morocco and former french colonies. so these kids' fathers never got very far and it appears to them as if they themselves are considered disposable.
on Nov 03, 2005
How do you come to that conclusion?


following the revolution, france was founded as a secular republic. it's larger than the other contenders (like holland and the scandanavian countries).
on Nov 03, 2005

following the revolution, france was founded as a secular republic. it's larger than the other contenders (like holland and the scandanavian countries).

So you only include those countries founded as such.  That was what I was looking for. Thanks.

on Nov 03, 2005
And finally, I understand Arabs are white. I didn't read much about the riots, but I understand the rioters were not Africans? (Do Africans riot in France? Do the French treat Africans worse than Arabs? If this was about dark skin, I would assume so, wouldn't I?)


if people native to the middle east weren't somewhat less white than europeans, how could we possibly profile terrorists? the official language of most french colonies in africa (or wherever) was french and many of the immigrants' families are from former french colonies.

And if this really happens every time, then perhaps there is something wrong with the decision made by those people to live in France and work for French companies.


they generally didn't have much choice cuz their parents were the actual immigrants. many of the current rioters were born and raised in france but viewed by european french natives as outsiders.
on Nov 03, 2005
So you only include those countries founded as such. That was what I was looking for. Thanks.


a fair percentage of the population is nominally catholic with the key word being 'nominally'. remember the 2004 law that prohibits religious dress, symbols, etc.?
on Nov 03, 2005

a fair percentage of the population is nominally catholic with the key word being 'nominally'. remember the 2004 law that prohibits religious dress, symbols, etc.?

That got a Fatwa from Bin Laden too.

on Nov 03, 2005
you *are* making excuses for lawless criminal behavior for which there simply is NO excuse.


no, i'm simply suggesting islanddog, gp and whoever else is incorrect in claiming the rioting is rooted in islam. for whatever reason, they seem to want it to be so. while the ultimate result of the conditions i'm describing may be to provide militant islam with a buncha eager recruits, for at least 10 years this type of riot has occured pretty much spontaneously. why give the islaamists credit for something they dont seem able to put together yet?

Lets see, give an uneducated, non native language speaking person a low paying job, and you're exploiting them. If you don't offer them a job, you're discriminating against them, (solely for their skin color, right?) Allow immigrants to enter your nation to seek a better life, and you invite riots and lawlessness if you don't bestow them with enough cash on arrival to live in a nice suburb, but close your borders or limit immigration and you're a bigot and a xenophobe


sounds like the usual lw litany of lamentation.

maybe you should consider doing a piece about how horrible it is to be french?
on Nov 03, 2005

following the revolution, france was founded as a secular republic. it's larger than the other contenders (like holland and the scandanavian countries).


The Netherlands were founded as a secular country?
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