480 games available for Linux. A tiny number compared to the rest.

    The biggest problem for desktop PC gamers:

Since most will use these machines with a controller will mouse/keyboard UI's be an afterthought?

even if every single title from here on now work under linux, it'll still take years before people ditch their back catalogue. practically guaranteed the devs won't back port their old games to linux. most of them won't even dump the gwfl that's on its way out. it'll take years for steam os to get mainstream.

IF I'm not mistaken, idea of Steambox is to stream your Windows games from your stationary PC on Steambox, to bypass Linux incompatibility problems. For those who want to play in living room/laying on the bad with gabepad. Don't get usual complain on "uncomfortable seating position". Well, buy good chair and play in comfortobable position - seat back and relax, while playing with mouse and keyboard.

As for Linux - most of the studios I'm interested it are already porting their games there, so...

Things you need to do to win in the Console game:

1. Have a better controller than the Microsoft or SONY

2. Have more/better titles than Microsoft or SONY

Hardware & OS are largely irrelevant.

As far as I can tell, the SteamBox has neither. It's a niche product for people who want to pay $1000 to stream games from their computer to the TV. That's some niche.

1. By people trying out the Steam controller it is supposed to be revolutionary and next step and it will only get better in time.

2. At the moment the number of SteamOS supported games is weaker then Xbox or PSX, but in time it will have a better selection. And we will need to see how this streaming will work. Number of good games on PC by far overshadows both Xbox and PS. 

The biggest problem with linux is hardware utilization. Since OpenGL can not utilize GPU to fully. And DirectX is Windows/XBox exclusive.

This problem will be resolved when Notrous engine is going to be released. That is one bigest problem linux have with 3d graphics.

If there is going to be a game exclusive to SteamOS, then i can just install SteamOS on current PC.

nitrous will still be using opengl/dx/mantle/etc, no?

Yes nitrous will be using those, but the future is in Mantle API. It is going to be multiplatform. One drawbacks is that there won't be any special effect in Mantle API. Only effects will be avaible as engine such as nitrous are going to have. As i have heard, Mantle is going to be API to bridge CPU and GPU. It will be up to engine (nitrous) to handle drawing and effects.

Yes, but a problem with the world is games break, and it will eventually happen. Not to mention some people pay for convience.

Pity because people especially Linux users will pay for old games.

Two things

1. It depends on people realizing the flexibility of computers over consoles.

2. Depends on how popular steam is, and how available they make games.

Am a fan of the mouse.

This is one irritating thing. Game companies won't sell their games on the computer, and game stores won't sell computer games.

More or less, but it is nice to pretend that someday someone will finally design games that will finally fully utilize the computer. Windows doesn't even do this. I do understand that you would have to have a smart game that would be able to identify the resources, or a flexible platform for many different kinds of hardware. One can dream right.

Sad to say, but people easily pay this for Playstation or Xbox systems already.

You can bypass this by utilizing the language instead of openGl.

Yeah, yeah. And Burger King fries are better than McDonald's fries. I generally find marketing hype unreliable. If they make a better controller, bully for them. Hopefully MS/Sony will notice and rip them off/license their tech so the rest of us can enjoy it.

The number of good console games on PC (that aren't ports of console games and that haven't been ported) is small/approaching zero.

Where are these games going to come from? Someone has to make them. If you're spending $Millions to develop a PC game, you're not going to target the SteamBox. If you're spending $Millions to develop a console game, you're not going to target the SteamBox.

Me too! But not on a console. I'm pretty sure that if you want to play games with a keyboard and a mouse, you <i>definitely</i> shouldn't buy a SteamBox. You don't need to buy one, because you're sitting the equivalent right now.

I find that any meat that comes from Mcdonalds gives me a stomach ache.

Personally I dream of a world that everyone especially software vendors remember the flexibility of the computer, and decide that computers are superior to consoles.

What can you clarify? Anyone heard of Spore or the Matrix. I heard of others the problem is that the grafics are not as good on a console as a computer this doesn't discount what a programmer can do with the grafics he has.

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Quoting admiralWillyWilber, reply 40Am a fan of the mouse.

Me too! But not on a console. I'm pretty sure that if you want to play games with a keyboard and a mouse, you <i>definitely</i> shouldn't buy a SteamBox. You don't need to buy one, because you're sitting the equivalent right now.[/quote]

Agree I would probaqbly check out a steam operating system though this would at least give me an excuse to go to Linux. I'm really irritated with Bill gates turning computers into tablets.

Latest news.

http://www.maximumpc.com/how_steam_machines_are_running_out_steam_2014

There may have been an Internet aww released when Valve officially said the Steam controller will “realistically” be delayed until 2015, but for those with skin in the game, the news couldn’t be worse.

According to numerous Steam Machine hardware vendors, official Steam Machines wouldn’t be sanctioned by Valve unless the PCs are shipped with the Steam controller. When you do the math, this essentially means the Steam Machines themselves are delayed from their projected Q4 2014 release until some unspecified time in 2015.

I question the sanity of hardware vendors that would "assume" Valve will get a release date and stick it before even giving one when they can't even do that for software.  Episode 3 should have been a gigantic "don't stockpile stuff yet" warning sign.

funniest thing is that none of the hardware makers are expecting any sort of decent profit from steam machines. delay or no delay.