Neil thanks for the answer even if i have played with the web section i couldnt make it work- i was a bit unclear since i wasnt speaking about the drag bars, my problem is the background tiling still. Like i said FF is eating the margin setup and displaying it correctly while IE fails but its only one tiny thing and i guess if MS isnt playing along this is something that cant be fixed..
IE is still one of my most used browsers even if its ugly but after a little skinning it isnt that bad once you get rid of those huge nav buttons
I would just wish MS would participate a little more into the whole skinning section but i have seen the windows 8 fish

@ Well then you havent seen The B I G difference it did for Hyperborea frames !!! neone6 i will have a look at it on my second pc simply dont want to overwrite until its out of beta

Transparent scrollbars eh? Awesome!