Published on April 29, 2009 By Island Dog In PC Gaming

MSNBC.com has a video report about Demigod, and the effects of piracy with comments from Stardock CEO, Brad Wardell.

Link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30392391#30392391

 


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on Apr 29, 2009

do all US news reporters speak as slowly as that guy?

Only Cafferty when he repeats daily that people can log onto his blog to stare at 300 replies (one of these mine to; Worst threat:Big Government or Big Business? *Small people, that's who. There’s no question about it, we’re all buying and being taxed for.*) for the CNN daily news poll question.

Far are gone the days of propaganda except for repetitive & annoyingly interruptive pubs on TeeVee.

on Apr 29, 2009

Be nice, it's MSNBC, that's top grade material for those jokers...

on Apr 29, 2009

It is a good thing Frogboy was able to get some voice time on a mainstream media outlet about the shitty reviews. Maybe some sites will redo their reviews because of it.

on Apr 29, 2009

SnallTrippin
Server side games?  I would NEVER play a game like that.  (Except on a console maybe) The security issues are HUGE.  I don't trust anyone with that kind of access.

I'd never purchase/play a server side game (PC platform) for serurity/privacy issues as well. It would also raise many of the same concerns now coming to light with cloud computing. You're wise user for not trusting others with that level of access to your PC.

Game consoles with locked down hardware, and used only to play games (minimum level of personal info involved) would be an ideal platform for server side gaming. After what's happened to Demigod, I believe it's clear that developing games for the PC platform is hopeless. DRM is all it's forms has failed, and just being a "good" company has also failed. I really don't know what else to say. This is a sad day, and a real eye opener for myself. I have always been a strong supporter of "fair use" and the need to reform copyright time limits. But this time the numbers don't lie. (12% legitimate users - wow)

 

 

 

on Apr 29, 2009

Maybe some sites will redo their reviews because of it.

Wanna bet they wont bother, the damage is done. Piracy struck, again.

on Apr 29, 2009

Thats just wrong people buys the game, not pirate it

on Apr 29, 2009

Stardock should sue Gamestop for releasing Demigod early and causing all this shit.

I'm also really pissed that the reviewers gave Demigod should bad scroes simply because of multiplayer issues. Those assholes didn't really even look at what the game really was. Stardock should also contact these people, explain what happened, and demand that they review the game again.

Oh, and I raise my middle finger to the pirates and the publishers who making this an excuse to put more DRM on the game.

on Apr 29, 2009

Stop making games for good*. Maybe then some "people" will learn of their "mistakes". Some people only value things once they have lost them. But that means that as always the innocent have to suffer because of the guilty... so don't stop making games for good UNTIL AFTER Elemental is done and patched, ok?

Also, no matter how many sales lost in the future, ban Gamestop from receiving any other SD game ever. If someone shows them that they have the "balls" to reject them for their obviously selfish reasons, maybe they wouldn't be so *BEEP*. Maybe they would fear that others could follow the lead. Maybe. Altough not likely with so much fear to piracy.

Demigod = in my book anyways.

* that means everybody, not just Stardock/GPG... Which we know won't happen.

on Apr 29, 2009

pirates make a living cracking and selling thousands of CDs of games and moives so they can feed their familes that live under bridges for a few hunderd dollars a month. Right or Wrong? No they call it survivial.

Poor people survived long before video games existed. They don't need to pirate to survive - they simply choose to do so.

If they couldn't sell video games, they would sell something else on the black market. Or better yet, they might start legitimate businesses. But don't tell me this is "survival." That's nonsense. There are many other things to sell, and plenty of legitimate ways to sell products.

And almost any game with internet access (say, for patching) technically can download viruses and upload your private information to companie's server.

You can also technically receive viruses from software on a CD. If you don't trust a company to send you stuff electronically, then I wouldn't trust them with a physical CD either.

From the video:

There's technology being developed now where even the single player experience in some of these games can be server side, and which, there's nothing to crack - the game is partially server based, and that's a future that I'd rather not see, but I can see it happening if the publishers become convinced that they're losing sales because of piracy.

. . . and that's what's going to happen. If you want to call it "survival" for the pirates, you accept the consequences of condoning their behavior. If you do not want that future, you NEED to convince people it's wrong to pirate, even for "survival."

Because all of the "survival" logic in the world won't matter. The publishers will do this if they think it is necessary. Even Stardock could do it if you push them hard enough and keep up the excellent work you're doing at making excuses for pirates.

Rationalize all you want. All the rationalization in the world won't matter if they decide to do it. It's not a matter of why people do it - it's a matter of how to stop it. Because if you don't become active in condemning it and taking steps to change the culture - they'll do it for you.

on Apr 29, 2009

Ellestar

Quoting SnallTrippin, reply 11And I'm saying that would allow companies insane access to your machine.  Not to mention what I'm sure some smart person would distribute viruses that way.  But yeah, you're an IT specialist...you know what your talking about I guess. /S
Well, yes. If you launch any game with an exe file, you're already giving all access you can possibly give to that company. They don't need anything else besides that exe file if they'll be crazy enough to destroy their buziness and face charges in courts by adding trojans/viruses etc. to an exe file of the game.

And almost any game with internet access (say, for patching) technically can download viruses and upload your private information to companie's server. Once again, noone will be crazy enough to do something like that. Say, banks generally don't run with your money even if they have full access to it, so why should gaming companies do it? It's not really profitable (game will cost too much money so to make it efficient) and there are much easier ways to distribute viruses - say, use spam emails or exploits in operating system/popular programs...

 

In other words, you're a classical n00b who doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

The differences are quite apparent.  I have control of and can check and exe or other file I download.  Also I know that the patch came from the game company, baring a complete takeover of a website/fileserver for a VERY short time that would effect relaitively small amounts of consumers. 

On the other hand if a company/server had the ability to access and change files whenever I was playing a game...well...yeah.  And all someone would have to do is slip in a little extra.  People are not companies..but they work at them.  But, hey..I'm just a noob who doesn't know anything about tech stuffz.  (I added a z so I could look cool too)

on Apr 29, 2009

Heh - wow.

We live in an age where pretty much none of what we use we've written ourselves. It's literally impossible for an individual  to check every line of code running on a system, as most software is written in teams, some small, some large. The OS itself has more code than physically possible to review by a single person.

So let us not fool ourselves: Whether downloaded or not, there is always a level of trust that they are all doing the "right thing" and not sticking anything bad on your system.

On the other hand if a company/server had the ability to access and change files whenever I was playing a game...well...yeah.

Most virus scanners have real time memory scanners, and actually, you may be more protected than you think:

-Most systems come with DEP enabled, which helps protect against patching important system files in memory.

-Most systems come with NTFS, which has a permission system to prevent patching important system files on the drive.

So your most important system files are probably safe. If you're taking security seriously and not being admin all the time.

on Apr 29, 2009

Their families live under bridges and they're too poor to support them, yet they have the equipment to crack, mass produce, package, and sell software illegally? Give me a break.

   It is the same reason why black people buy expensive rims and tires then put them on junk cars or someone that lives in a run down house but has a kick ass stero system.

   People live under bridges because houses here can't be pirated and they are very expensive but the computers the burns 20 dvds at time is bought on the black market for less then $100 and blank dvds and plastic bags, paper covers from a photocopy shop are just a few pennies then they steal electricity from light poles then set shop in a tent. Off to the market to sell dvds for a dollar all day long to fed the kids.

on Apr 29, 2009

People live under bridges because houses here can't be pirated

What? Again.....What?

My oh my......i knew there was a reason i prefer to ignore your posts.

 

on Apr 30, 2009

There's more in Indonesia (which is near enough to Australia for techy freaks but far enough from anything continental to be an isolated Islamist set of islands -- yours is what, btw... Borneo?) than in a Brazilian SaoPaulo ghetto (ETC) maybe?

Welcome to the Jungles, it may not look urbanized or industrialized enough but if there's a way to exploit foreign products you can count on crooks to hide deep into it to create artificial wealth based on outright theft.

I gather you've never been in NY City - cuz, someone in the Bronx would snip off your best luxury jeans buttons just for staring a little too much at their shiny waxed super Cadillacs. I paid him a tuna sandwich and we parted our different ways, boy. My Black SR5 in their dust. Wanna talk racism and colors? You dunno half of it.

I'm caucasian white like a bottle of milk, and i know who not to insult in public or otherwise.

GmOOnii, you have me at a disadvantage, our own jungle is snowy and frozen solid four months per year but please realize this -- you're still no match in some cases, pawnshop my meanings if you dare.

Don't wake the Canadian Polar bears too soon and you'll get through the upcoming summer time bootleg fakes here even.

on Apr 30, 2009

We'll, whadayaknow -- a Kangooroo just jumped in this mess, too.

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