Is one side more receptive than the other?
Published on April 3, 2008 By Island Dog In Internet

Piracy, whether it be of games, movies, software, or music is a pretty hot topic these days.  On one side you have people against piracy who usually claim copyright should be protected and what people are doing is just plain stealing.  On the other side there are people who think attempts to squash piracy are against someones "freedom" and argue that piracy doesn't affect the bottom line in business.

I have been looking through a bunch of websites that one could say the readers are more "supportive" of piracy and I noticed that what seems like a majority of these people seem to also be vocal in U.S. politics.  It also seems many of these people lean more to the left of the political spectrum, although I can't find any data to officially back that up with.  However, I think it's an interesting question to ask.  Does ones political affiliation and beliefs lessen or strengthen their stance on piracy?

Now before people get all bent out of shape, let me say I'm not accusing someone of advocating piracy because they are more liberal or conservative, but I do have my personal theory that one side is more receptive of the practice than another.  It's common to hear that people who are younger are typically more receptive to piracy than someone much older, but you never here much about their political, or even religious, preferences.

My belief is people who are more liberal, meaning fairly far left, will be more likely to accept the practice of piracy.  Why do I think that?  Well first of all, far left thinking is that capitalism is bad, and anyone who makes a profit is somehow "evil".  This also goes back to the reality that liberalism is more in favor of entitlement, and that someone who makes money somehow "owes" it back to society.  This creates an attitude of basically "I don't care" and that stealing someones copyrighted material doesn't mean anything because they are retaliating against the "greedy" industry.

What is your opinion?  Do you think an individuals political leaning affects their stance on piracy, or do you think it has no connection at all?


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on Apr 03, 2008
I think you have hit the nail left of center.    
on Apr 03, 2008

I maintain that this is an absolute ridiculous position to take. Do violent video games make people more prone to commit acts of violence? Are atheists more intelligent than the religious?


It's drawing a connection for the sake of making a connection.

on Apr 03, 2008
It's drawing a connection for the sake of making a connection.


I tend to agree with mittens. I think you're looking for correlations where there aren't any to be found, ID.

But then, we know you love your conservatism.
on Apr 03, 2008
Do violent video games make people more prone to commit acts of violence?


yes


Are atheists more intelligent than the religious?


obviously not



I think you have hit the nail left of center.


true
on Apr 03, 2008
I disagree with mittens and S.C.

Most of the liberals I know are young people (“Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.” - Winston Churchill).  And most of them think that they are owed something by their parents, their employers, and the government.  They tend to think that anything non-physical should be free.  That can be music, movies, software, and in many cases, services.

I don't think it's true of all liberals and untrue for all conservatives . . but there is a Socialist mindset propagated by the left's political stance that encourages a "we all should be equal and no one should have more than anyone else" that extends to copyrighted materials.

Having said that, I don't see many of the liberal left going out and busting their asses to help others step up.

I wonder if Animal farm is still required reading in school.? 
on Apr 03, 2008
“Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.” - Winston Churchill


An axiom......never heard that one before.........thanks
on Apr 03, 2008
Well, what about the theory that most people don't even consider the points you make?

Since you ask for opinions, mine is that what you present really never enters the mind for the majority of our society. Not saying that they are not capable of considering the points. For the most part they just want to make it through the day, have a job, have a family, put food on the table and have a bed to sleep in.

For sure there is a portion of society that does bother to consider your points. I happen to feel that it's a small portion, clearly not the majority.

At the end of the day, the answers to our questions really are not very complicated.

Then agian I have always be accused of living in a fantasy world.  
on Apr 03, 2008

My belief is people who are more liberal, meaning fairly far left, will be more likely to accept the practice of piracy.  Why do I think that?  Well first of all, far left thinking is that capitalism is bad, and anyone who makes a profit is somehow "evil".  This also goes back to the reality that liberalism is more in favor of entitlement, and that someone who makes money somehow "owes" it back to society.  This creates an attitude of basically "I don't care" and that stealing someones copyrighted material doesn't mean anything because they are retalitating against the "greedy" industry.

See, I'm the wrench in that belief of yours, because damn near every test I've taken has shown me as far left, but the I don't believe that Capitalism is necessarily evil. I think it should be adjust, and tweaked so that it can be more user friendly, so to speak, but Capitalism has worked so far (albeit oddly), so why change horses in the middle of the river, right?

As for if someone who has made money somehow oweing some back to society, if society as whole has helped them get to that point,then yes. I believe in giving back to society, and when I'm rich (cause i want to be, ironically), i'm going to give back to society and live modestly. It just makes sense to help those who've helped you, and to help your fellow beings.

And no, I don't agree with the concept of piracy.

on Apr 03, 2008
Since you ask for opinions, mine is that what you present really never enters the mind for the majority of our society. Not saying that they are not capable of considering the points. For the most part they just want to make it through the day, have a job, have a family, put food on the table and have a bed to sleep
I don't think they think about it either . . but many are fed "entitlements" along with "equality" (based on bunk instead of merit).
on Apr 03, 2008
As for if someone who has made money somehow oweing some back to society, if society as whole has helped them get to that point,then yes. I believe in giving back to society, and when I'm rich (cause i want to be, ironically), i'm going to give back to society and live modestly
I agree with you and have the same plan.  But I also understand that for the left, I can never give enough to justify my being rich.  In fact, they'd like to tax me so that I can't be rich.  So they can pre-give my money before I can even deposit it. 
on Apr 03, 2008
A very very general assumption is that the right is closed minded while the left is opened minded. I think there might be some merit to the original theory here.
on Apr 03, 2008
I agree with you and have the same plan. But I also understand that for the left, I can never give enough to justify my being rich. In fact, they'd like to tax me so that I can't be rich. So they can pre-give my money before I can even deposit it.


And that's why I've never fit in with ordinary liberals; never was rank and file. Practically thinking (or is it pragmatically), the rich can afford to pay more, so while we shouldn't tax them till they bleed, I do feel that they can handle it better.
on Apr 03, 2008
(“Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has not heart; and any
man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.” - Winston Churchill)


I'm retired now, but I was pretty unusual for a soldier, in that I was a liberal when I was in the Army (slightly to the right edge of liberal, but a liberal nonetheless), and a consistent Democratic voter. Now I'm 46, and I'm just as much a liberal as I was when I was in the Army. There are exceptions to every rule...

on Apr 03, 2008
And perhaps I should rephrase that I want to be very well off. I don't plan on being like warren buffet, but I want to be where I dont have to worry about paying my bills, and where I can take my family and go on vacations, and again, not have to worry.

on Apr 03, 2008
I'm retired now, but I was pretty unusual for a soldier, in that I was a liberal when I was in the Army (slightly to the right edge of liberal, but a liberal nonetheless), and a consistent Democratic voter. Now I'm 46, and I'm just as much a liberal as I was when I was in the Army. There are exceptions to every rule...
And your feelings on piracy?    What about what you think of your fellow libs?

My father, a retired Army Col., was ultra-conservative all through his military career.  Now, as a wealthy, civilian contractor inside the beltway has become significantly more left of center.  I have to get him back in the South soon!!
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